(12-07-2015, 05:45 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Simple: move them to Baltimore.


























































On a more serious note, here's my overly simplified way of fixing the Browns:
1) Hire a good coach. If said coach has already been a head coach, MUST have been a successful one. Otherwise, try to find an up-and-coming coordinator/position coach, that has shown a good grasp of Xs and Os and/or capable of developing talent.
2) Give the coach complete control over the roster. No meddling.
3) Focus on fixing team through draft as much as possible.
4) Give coach 5 years to turn franchise around. Doesn't matter how bad years 1 through 4 are, you will get 5 full years to turn this team around.

(12-07-2015, 06:43 PM)michaelsean Wrote: The Browns need to trade the #1 pick and the #33 pick for multiple picks.  They should aim to have at least 6 picks in the first 3 rounds.

(12-07-2015, 07:54 PM)jason Wrote: They've tried that before. They could have had Julio, but chose to amass picks instead. Few if any of those guys are still on the team. There is no fixing that team. Relegate them.

(12-07-2015, 06:43 PM)michaelsean Wrote: The Browns need to trade the #1 pick and the #33 pick for multiple picks.  They should aim to have at least 6 picks in the first 3 rounds.

(12-08-2015, 09:19 AM)McC Wrote: And then they'll blow at least five of the six.  They've already failed plenty at quantity over quality.  They've had a buttload of high picks in the past several years and guess where they still are--at the bottom.

What they need to do is decide on a direction and then do the opposite.  If every decision you've ever made is wrong...

(12-07-2015, 07:54 PM)jason Wrote: They've tried that before. They could have had Julio, but chose to amass picks instead. Few if any of those guys are still on the team. There is no fixing that team. Relegate them.

(12-08-2015, 05:30 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: The Falcons got Julio Jones.

Here's the Browns return:
Phil Taylor-Gone
Greg Little-Gone
Owen Marecic-Gone
Brandon Weeden-Gone

And the final pick they received in the trade was used to move up for Trent Richardson.

(12-08-2015, 06:00 PM)6andcounting Wrote: The odds of that many busts from one trade has to be near impossible.

This was a while ago, but I think it's still relevant and my favorite... 2004. Browns took Kellen Winslow Jr. 5 or 6 picks before the Steelers took Ben. And they needed a qb, and still do.

(12-08-2015, 06:05 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: My favorite story comes from the 2006 draft. The Browns and Ravens had the same 2 guys at the top of their draft boards:

1. Haloti Ngata
2. Kamerion Wimbley

Baltimore did a lot of work looking into Wimbley. Cleveland really liked Ngata. Draft rolls around and Baltimore let it "slip" that they really wanted Wimbley. Cleveland agreed to flip spots in the draft. Baltimore takes Ngata, who they wanted all along, and Cleveland is left with egg on their face.

(12-08-2015, 06:10 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Lol. I don't remember hearing that one.

Taking Manziel because of a text message is probably more ******** than getting tricked though.

(12-08-2015, 06:27 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: The Browns pretty much downplayed it since they got their #2 choice and acted like Wimbley is who they wanted all along.

They just have a history of this stuff. 2010 draft, Holmgren overruled EVERYONE in the draft room and took Colt McCoy. 2012, they had such a hard on for Kendall Wright and watched him go 1 pick in front of them. Reports/rumors were that their draft room pretty much was crushed. They just decided to go with the top QB on their board and hoped it'd work out. So they took Brandon Weeden.

(12-08-2015, 06:00 PM)6andcounting Wrote: The odds of going 0-5 from one trade has to be near impossible.

This was a while ago, but I think it's still relevant and my favorite... 2004. Browns took Kellen Winslow Jr. 5 or 6 picks before the Steelers took Ben. And they needed a qb, and still do.

(12-08-2015, 06:48 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Well they are similar in that neither can ride a motorcycle.