(11-17-2023, 05:24 PM)Tomkat Wrote: I mean, at this point IT HAS TO BE, right?
If ownership stands pat with the O-line now... it's borderline CRIMINAL.

(11-17-2023, 05:30 PM)ochocincoftw Wrote: I posted this in another thread. But they started too. We thought we were going to have a much improved line. We brought in Orlando Brown Jr. from the chiefs and we thought we had a huge improvement, but he's rated 48th out of 64 starting tackles so far this year. There's a reason that the chiefs fan base was thrilled to be rid of him. Maybe it's coaching. 

(11-17-2023, 05:24 PM)Tomkat Wrote: I mean, at this point IT HAS TO BE, right?
If ownership stands pat with the O-line now... it's borderline CRIMINAL.

(11-17-2023, 05:42 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Volson sucks and needs to be replaced immediately. Williams will probably be too expensive to re-sign. They have work to do.

(11-17-2023, 05:50 PM)Synric Wrote: I wonder if they will replace Volson this offseason. Its going to be interesting the rest of the year because they will lean on the run game so we should see them open up the playbook in that regard a little. 


As for Jonah Williams I believe this will be his last year in stripes even if the Bengals do offer him a competitive contract. We can't forget he was not happy about the Orlando Brown situation and while he has been a complete professional this entire time I can see him telling the front office FU. 

(11-17-2023, 05:44 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: We were rushing for 8 yards a carry...and they kept dropping him back to throw against the team that leads the nfl in sacks.

The line is improved. If you pass 75% of the times, teams will blitz you.

Volson needs replaced.

Zac calls plays like this is Madden.

(11-17-2023, 06:04 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: You are correct on all counts here.  Other than Cordell Volson I think the Bengals have the right offensive line personnel but the blocking schemes and coaching are from a bygone era.  Watch the Ravens’ offensive line or the Texans’ offensive line and you’ll see a modern twist on gap and trap blocking.  I will never forget Lamar Jackson having eleven seconds to throw like he did last night.

(11-17-2023, 05:32 PM)Tomkat Wrote: OK, so a coaching change is in order then, too, yes?

(11-17-2023, 05:57 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I wonder, too. If I were to bet, i’d say Tobin let’s him “develop.”

(11-17-2023, 06:14 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: The Bengals have or potentially are going to have alot of holes to fill. I'm fine with Jonah but I would like to see an upgrade for Volson. A top 10 pick will put us in good position to get an elite tackle if we don't sign Volson. But if we let Jonah go we need to put that money somewhere else. This needs to be an urgent off-season because I believe we are looking at a mini rebuild. If they go in with the standard  of not doing anything in free agency and letting Jonah walk and our only OL addition is replacing him. We are fooling ourselves to think the cycle won't repeat. The has changed somethings the last few years and it's time to keep those trends continuing. If we do sign some of our own key free agents Jonah and Reader. I'd say trade back in the 1st and get an extra day 2 pick. We could go Guard in the 1st and go Dline corner WR on day 2.

(11-17-2023, 06:22 PM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: If they would have drafted the center over Carman and still brought in the players they did from FA you would have

OBJ
Karras
That crazy good center
Cappa
Williams

(11-17-2023, 06:23 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Doubt Jonah re-signs here even if we offer him good money. He probably still is mad about how the coaches and the FO 
replaced him with Orlando Brown without telling him and he probably still wants to play LT. The good thing is that there will 
be proven RT's in Free Agency who have primarily played RT and that don't have Jonah's injury history and would be cheaper.

(11-17-2023, 05:32 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yes it is. Expecting a RT and a LG in Free Agency and a new OL coach. Do it.