(03-25-2024, 10:22 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Kent Lee Platte, the creator of ras.football, posted on X/Twitter the average RAS scores for all OLs in the league for 2023.
Bengals OL came in dead last with an average RAS of 4.11 (poor).
The second-closest was Rams at 5.44.
Falcons had the most athletic bunch at 9.78.

Obviously, being the most athletic doesn't translate to "best," but it is useful if trying to understand how some teams may be able to get better.

What do you think, should the Bengals try to draft more athletic OL?

(03-25-2024, 11:26 AM)Hello to everyone Wrote: Here we go, some guy named Kent Lee Platte has made up a stat and is pushing his twitter feed, gave the Bengals a bad score trying to get everybody upset and of course Bengal fans are going to oblige to it because we came in last. Cmon, (athletic offensive line) give me a break.

(03-25-2024, 10:22 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Kent Lee Platte, the creator of ras.football, posted on X/Twitter the average RAS scores for all OLs in the league for 2023.
Bengals OL came in dead last with an average RAS of 4.11 (poor).
The second-closest was Rams at 5.44.
Falcons had the most athletic bunch at 9.78.

Obviously, being the most athletic doesn't translate to "best," but it is useful if trying to understand how some teams may be able to get better.

What do you think, should the Bengals try to draft more athletic OL?

(03-25-2024, 11:35 AM)depthchart Wrote: Doesn't Orlando Brown Jr have a really poor RAS score yet he is a Key Piece to the O-line ?

He fell to the 3rd round in part because he tested so poorly at his Combine.

I think the Bengals should lean on proven Free Agents at the Offensive Line positions and Draft other positions early

that they will be more likely to Hit on.  Just hitting on a player at any other position prevents having to get a Free Agent there.

Only Draft say a 1st round Offensive Lineman if it is a really SOLID prospect. (not developmental or riskier 1st rounders)

Use a 2nd round pick only when convinced that the Offensive Line prospect in the Best Player Available.

Take some Offensive Linemen for depth (say rounds 3 or 4 or 5) and hopefully a few of them end up being very good.

Every so often, if another guy that people thought should have been a 1st rounder is falling in the Draft (like Orlando Brown Jr did)

then maybe take that guy say in round 3 or 4. 

In General, lean of Proven Free Agents on the Starting O-line.

(03-25-2024, 11:26 AM)Hello to everyone Wrote: Here we go, some guy named Kent Lee Platte has made up a stat and is pushing his twitter feed, gave the Bengals a bad score trying to get everybody upset and of course Bengal fans are going to oblige to it because we came in last. Cmon, (athletic offensive line) give me a break.

(03-25-2024, 11:26 AM)Hello to everyone Wrote: Here we go, some guy named Kent Lee Platte has made up a stat and is pushing his twitter feed, gave the Bengals a bad score trying to get everybody upset and of course Bengal fans are going to oblige to it because we came in last. Cmon, (athletic offensive line) give me a break.

(03-25-2024, 11:59 AM)Synric Wrote: RAS is not a stat. 

It takes the measurements and testing from the combine/pro days and shows where that player is relative to all the prospect testing for his position group.

(03-25-2024, 11:48 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Umm...RAS has been used for a lot of teams and evaluations for 10+ years lol.
Check it out if you haven't before.

(03-25-2024, 10:22 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Kent Lee Platte, the creator of ras.football, posted on X/Twitter the average RAS scores for all OLs in the league for 2023.
Bengals OL came in dead last with an average RAS of 4.11 (poor).
The second-closest was Rams at 5.44.
Falcons had the most athletic bunch at 9.78.

Obviously, being the most athletic doesn't translate to "best," but it is useful if trying to understand how some teams may be able to get better.

What do you think, should the Bengals try to draft more athletic OL?

(03-25-2024, 12:18 PM)Hello to everyone Wrote: I'll be honest with you, I can care less. Only thing I want them to do is pass block and run block, don't care if they weigh 800 lbs and have a ras score of negative 5000, as long as they can pass block and run block.

(03-25-2024, 12:11 PM)Jojo the Circus Boy Wrote: Not a huge fan of RAS. You can measure well height and weight wise and run fast in the 40, but not do any bench, jumping, or agility drills and you are not penalized. So any athlete can pick the one drill they can nail and suddenly they have a great RAS.
Now if he mandated all drills be accomplished to get a score, it would have more merit athletically

(03-25-2024, 12:29 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Fair, but it's no secret the Bengals OL isn't athletic enough to run a wide zone, which is what they had tried to run multiple times in the past.
Being limited athletically can force a team to operate in a certain way. It can also mean having difficulties when going against some faster, more athletic players on the opposite side of the ball.
That's what I take away from this.
But to your point, being the most athletic doesn't necessarily make someone a great player. That was stated in the OP and also stated by Kent himself. It's just a tool to help in evaluations.

EDIT - And Relative Athletic Score can help indicate if they have the athletic chops to succeed in pass blocking and/or run blocking that the team is asking them to do. For example, if you are asking your OL to move a good amount, they probably need to be pretty athletic to do that.

(03-25-2024, 02:14 PM)Hello to everyone Wrote: Ok, fair enough. But as the saying goes (sometimes you have to many tools and not enough hands).

(03-25-2024, 12:18 PM)Hello to everyone Wrote: I'll be honest with you,I can care less. Only thing I want them to do is pass block and run block, don't care if they weigh 800 lbs and have a ras score of negative 5000, as long as they can pass block and run block.