(03-25-2024, 12:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I keep seeing trade Tee. That trade will not make us better in 2024 in my opinion. It is gamble a rooking will be great (like Tee) in 2024.

I would rather see us trade Browning to the Broncos. We get pick 12, they get pick 18. We also get their 4th round pick.

Denver needs a starting QB and are strapped for cap space.

We can get a franchise RT with pick 12, not so sure with #18.

Then we trade up earlier in round 2 using our other 10 picks (we added one with Denver trade in 4th) to get Sweat in round 2.

(03-25-2024, 12:54 PM)phil413 Wrote: This is an old controversial topic that comes down to your view of insurance.  Some say that kd we lose Burrow we are done anyway.  There is always the in between, say a month without Burrow for example. I'll take the guy that can keep us in games vs the cheap backup that goes 1-3 and loses us a seed or playoff spot all together.  Some could argue that Browning is a big time win now factor, though I get the attraction.  If someone told you Burrow would play every snap, you'd want something for Browning, but none of us have a Flux capacitor...so to me Browning stays.  

(03-25-2024, 12:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I keep seeing trade Tee. That trade will not make us better in 2024 in my opinion. It is gamble a rooking will be great (like Tee) in 2024...

(03-25-2024, 12:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I would rather see us trade Browning to the Broncos. We get pick 12, they get pick 18. We also get their 4th round pick.

Denver needs a starting QB and are strapped for cap space.

We can get a franchise RT with pick 12, not so sure with #18.

Then we trade up earlier in round 2 using our other 10 picks (we added one with Denver trade in 4th) to get Sweat in round 2.

(03-25-2024, 12:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I keep seeing trade Tee. That trade will not make us better in 2024 in my opinion. It is gamble a rooking will be great (like Tee) in 2024.

I would rather see us trade Browning to the Broncos. We get pick 12, they get pick 18. We also get their 4th round pick.

Denver needs a starting QB and are strapped for cap space.

We can get a franchise RT with pick 12, not so sure with #18.

Then we trade up earlier in round 2 using our other 10 picks (we added one with Denver trade in 4th) to get Sweat in round 2.

(03-25-2024, 01:55 PM)ochocincos Wrote: So the Broncos move back 6 spots in Rd 1 and give up their 4th round pick for Browning?

Pick 12 overall is worth 1200 points on trade value chart, according to https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/draft_trade_value.htm.
Pick 18 overall is worth 900 points, so +300 pts for Bengals in that alone.
Add in 4th round pick, which is worth about 50 pts, and the new total becomes Jake Browning equating to 350 points.
That would put Browning rated around the equivalent of a mid-to-late 2nd round pick.


That feels too rich to me.
I can't imagine Broncos would do that trade.

Now maybe if you said give up Browning, 18th overall, and Bengals 4th rounder or 3rd round comp pick, that might be more appropriate.

I'd say it's more likely the Bengals could trade BACK in Rd 1 if a guy they really want doesn't fall to them, but that's mainly because we've seen them do that multiple times in the past.

(03-25-2024, 02:01 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Denver has very little cap space, it gives them time to draft their future. Browning is locked into 1.2 million a year for us or any team that trades for him.

I believe is almost league minimum contract adds value, just as Tee's expensive contract hurts his trade value. 

(03-25-2024, 01:55 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Bottom line to me is Browning is cheap and Tee will be costing us 21 mil this year if we keep him around and he is always banged up
it seems. Been a long damn time since we had a decent backup QB and we are pretty good at drafting WR's and this is a stacked WR
class. Would rather trade Tee and draft his replacement and put our money towards the trenches on both sides.

(03-25-2024, 01:35 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I am just highly skeptical that Browning returns anything of value, honestly. He is a soon-to-be 28 year old QB who just threw his first passes this past season. He did make some strong plays, but I think this post is an example of highly overrating Browning's value. If you compute the rough value of the picks you mentioned, it comes out to pick #55. So, middle of the second round value for Browning. I just have a hard time believing he returns that.

(03-25-2024, 02:01 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Denver has very little cap space, it gives them time to draft their future. Browning is locked into 1.2 million a year for us or any team that trades for him.

I believe is almost league minimum contract adds value, just as Tee's expensive contract hurts his trade value. 

(03-25-2024, 01:55 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Bottom line to me is Browning is cheap and Tee will be costing us 21 mil this year if we keep him around and he is always banged up
it seems. Been a long damn time since we had a decent backup QB and we are pretty good at drafting WR's and this is a stacked WR
class. Would rather trade Tee and draft his replacement and put our money towards the trenches on both sides.

(03-25-2024, 12:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I keep seeing trade Tee. That trade will not make us better in 2024 in my opinion. It is gamble a rooking will be great (like Tee) in 2024.

I would rather see us trade Browning to the Broncos. We get pick 12, they get pick 18. We also get their 4th round pick.

Denver needs a starting QB and are strapped for cap space.

We can get a franchise RT with pick 12, not so sure with #18.

Then we trade up earlier in round 2 using our other 10 picks (we added one with Denver trade in 4th) to get Sweat in round 2.

(03-25-2024, 02:03 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I love beefing up the trenches also, but who is left in 2024 other than the draft?

I like Browing just as I love stock when the price explodes. I love to buy low and sell high. Browning's value may never be higher if we want to win in 2024.

(03-25-2024, 02:29 PM)depthchart Wrote: Browning can keep the Ship afloat if Burrow were to miss say 4 to 6 weeks in 2024.

That may be worth keeping around.

There is also the chance that Browning could Win a Playoff game (if Burrow had to miss one)

                                                       -or-

Were the Bengals to be in a Super Bowl and Burrow gets hurt say in the mid 3rd Quarter of a close game;

Could Browning maybe come in and finish out a Super Bowl (from say the mid 3rd Quarter on) with a Win ?   (maybe so)

(03-25-2024, 02:52 PM)BengalBob Wrote: There is ZERO chance Denver would make this trade for Jake Browning.

IF they did, there would be a dozen threads on how we have the worst backup QB situation in the NFL.