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PFF Grades vs KC - Nicomo Cosca - 09-16-2024



RE: PFF Grades vs KC - Mer - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 02:55 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Contrary to what some on here say, I saw Trey defend the run on quite a few plays. I didn't actually see him make a tackle on a run but I did see him contain the edge and not blindly rush the passer as some say he always does. I love it when he gets going and turns into "Blackout Trey".

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - masonbengals fan - 09-16-2024

Trey was on fire. Should have drawn more flags than what he did. Wrecking ball type game...

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - KillerGoose - 09-16-2024

Top Five Offense (Min. 25 snaps)


  1. Mike Gesicki - 72.3
  2. Joe Burrow - 67.1
  3. Erick All - 66.9
  4. Alex Cappa - 65.6
  5. Trent Brown - 61.7
Bottom Five Offense (Min. 25 snaps)


  1. Ja'Marr Chase - 57.5
  2. Ted Karras - 57.2
  3. Andrei Iosivas - 55.3
  4. Trenton Irwin - 47.4
  5. Cordell Volson - 41.8 (11 pass block grade)


RE: PFF Grades vs KC - psychdoctor - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:06 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Top Five Offense (Min. 25 snaps)



  1. Mike Gesicki - 72.3
  2. Joe Burrow - 67.1
  3. Erick All - 66.9
  4. Alex Cappa - 65.6
  5. Trent Brown - 61.7
Bottom Five Offense (Min. 25 snaps)



  1. Ja'Marr Chase - 57.5
  2. Ted Karras - 57.2
  3. Andrei Iosivas - 55.3
  4. Trenton Irwin - 47.4
  5. Cordell Volson - 41.8 (11 pass block grade)

Volson's performance is disappointing.  Was he blocking Carter?  Also, why is Irwin not on Practice Squad?  He is not a starting caliber NFL WR.  

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - Nicomo Cosca - 09-16-2024

Wonder why they docked Orlando so much? I thought the holding penalty was pretty weak tbh, and other than that he seemed to play well. At least in pass protection. I’m guessing a poor run blocking score dragged his overall grade down.

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - Whatever - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:06 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Top Five Offense (Min. 25 snaps)




  1. Mike Gesicki - 72.3
  2. Joe Burrow - 67.1
  3. Erick All - 66.9
  4. Alex Cappa - 65.6
  5. Trent Brown - 61.7
Bottom Five Offense (Min. 25 snaps)




  1. Ja'Marr Chase - 57.5
  2. Ted Karras - 57.2
  3. Andrei Iosivas - 55.3
  4. Trenton Irwin - 47.4
  5. Cordell Volson - 41.8 (11 pass block grade)

Disappointing outing for Chase, to be sure.

Remember the "We have the deepest WR corps I can remember", crowd?  Yeeeeaaaahhhh... about that..

Wonder what the excuses will be for Volson this week from the Volson supporters?

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - Joelist - 09-16-2024

Chris Jones always gives us problems. But I think the scores are too low because this time he did not take over the game.

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - Sled21 - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:12 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Volson's performance is disappointing.  Was he blocking Carter?  Also, why is Irwin not on Practice Squad?  He is not a starting caliber NFL WR.  

Irwin is not a starter. He is Tee's backup. Why is that so hard to understand?

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - Sled21 - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:26 PM)Joelist Wrote: Chris Jones always gives us problems. But I think the scores are too low because this time he did not take over the game.

Chris Jones gives EVERYONE problems. I thought the line was fine yesterday. 

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:06 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Top Five Offense (Min. 25 snaps)



  1. Mike Gesicki - 72.3
  2. Joe Burrow - 67.1
  3. Erick All - 66.9
  4. Alex Cappa - 65.6
  5. Trent Brown - 61.7
Bottom Five Offense (Min. 25 snaps)



  1. Ja'Marr Chase - 57.5
  2. Ted Karras - 57.2
  3. Andrei Iosivas - 55.3
  4. Trenton Irwin - 47.4
  5. Cordell Volson - 41.8 (11 pass block grade)


Volson came back down to earth.....

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:01 PM)Mer Wrote: Contrary to what some on here say, I saw Trey defend the run on quite a few plays. I didn't actually see him make a tackle on a run but I did see him contain the edge and not blindly rush the passer as some say he always does. I love it when he gets going and turns into "Blackout Trey".


It was definitely one of his better outings against the run. I wouldn't say he's awful at it, but I would definitely say it usually isn't a strong suit for him. 

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - THE PISTONS - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:38 PM)Wyche Wrote: It was definitely one of his better outings against the run. I wouldn't say he's awful at it, but I would definitely say it usually isn't a strong suit for him. 

I think guys played harder vs the Chiefs too and focused on playing 'winning' ball.

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - Soonerpeace - 09-16-2024

Lineman wise always important to favor who they are going against

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - TheLeonardLeap - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:34 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Irwin is not a starter. He is Tee's backup. Why is that so hard to understand?

Tee has played...

74.81%
64.60%
68.38%
52.67%
00.00%

...of the offensive snaps in his career. Over the previous 3 years he's averaged less than 2/3rds and never reached 3/4ths at any point of his career. Any immediate backup for him is going to play a significant amount of snaps and any failure to prepare for that is just a failure of the FO. Even more so when we know that Zac is always going to have a pass heavy offense.

It's to a lesser degree, but it's a similar situation to going "Eifert will be healthy THIS year, we don't need a quality backup TE for him".

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - ochocincos - 09-16-2024

Only one offensive player with 70+ grade?
Ouch.

Volson got manhandled. Grade of 41.8. Only 11.0 in pass pro.

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - jj22 - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:12 PM)psychdoctor Wrote:  Also, why is Irwin not on Practice Squad?  He is not a starting caliber NFL WR.  

Burrow likes him. 

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - ochocincos - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:34 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Irwin is not a starter. He is Tee's backup. Why is that so hard to understand?

Apparently some think that if you're on the 53, you need to be a decent starter at all times.

The Bengals chose to draft a guy who needed polishing.
The Bengals chose to let Boyd walk in FA.
Between Irwin (who was ok in spurts last year) and Iosivas, they likely thought they had WR3 and immediate backup covered.


This wouldn't be a problem if the Bengals just forced Burton into Irwin's reps, but I am assuming Burton hasn't grasped all the different routes to run correctly yet.
He's clearly more elite athletically though.

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:45 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think guys played harder vs the Chiefs too and focused on playing 'winning' ball.


That's probably right. 

RE: PFF Grades vs KC - bfine32 - 09-16-2024

(09-16-2024, 03:06 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Top Five Offense (Min. 25 snaps)



  1. Mike Gesicki - 72.3
  2. Joe Burrow - 67.1
  3. Erick All - 66.9
  4. Alex Cappa - 65.6
  5. Trent Brown - 61.7
Bottom Five Offense (Min. 25 snaps)



  1. Ja'Marr Chase - 57.5
  2. Ted Karras - 57.2
  3. Andrei Iosivas - 55.3
  4. Trenton Irwin - 47.4
  5. Cordell Volson - 41.8 (11 pass block grade)

Aren't the Oline scores pretty much the exact opposite from last week? Seems everyone was mad at Cappa and T-Brown last week.