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Screen Game? - WeezyBengal - 09-17-2024
Why does our screen game suck every year?
There were about three screens sniffed out in the Chiefs game where Burrow has to spike the ball or just throw it down field.
I'd love to get Chase Brown the ball more in these situations and in space more, but it seems like we are just incapable of running good screen plays.
What's the deal here? Play design? Players tipping/not selling it?
RE: Screen Game? - Nepa - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 09:40 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Why does our screen game suck every year?
There were about three screens sniffed out in the Chiefs game where Burrow has to spike the ball or just throw it down field.
I'd love to get Chase Brown the ball more in these situations, but it seems like we are just incapable of running good screen plays.
What's the deal here? Play design? Players tipping/not selling it?
In one of the screens yesterday the announcers said Chris Jones, as soon as he saw no one was blocking him, realized it was a screen play and broke it up.
RE: Screen Game? - Millhouse - 09-17-2024
It could be a combination of play design, when they are being called, and not enough practice with the limited time they have. I think those that on the inside probably know this answer the best tho.
RE: Screen Game? - Soonerpeace - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 09:40 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Why does our screen game suck every year?
There were about three screens sniffed out in the Chiefs game where Burrow has to spike the ball or just throw it down field.
I'd love to get Chase Brown the ball more in these situations, but it seems like we are just incapable of running good screen plays.
What's the deal here? Play design? Players tipping/not selling it?
Don’t know but Jones was unblocked and knew immediately it was a screen. Not every DT could have or would have made that play. KC was defending it well.
RE: Screen Game? - Soonerpeace - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 09:53 AM)Nepa Wrote: In one of the screens yesterday the announcers said Chris Jones, as soon as he saw no one was blocking him, realized it was a screen play and broke it up.
KC was ready for the screens. Good teams prepare and defend well. KC and Spag have really improved there. But we held Kelce to 1 catch 6 yards and Mahomes his lowest passing yards as a starter ever.
RE: Screen Game? - ochocincos - 09-17-2024
After seeing all the short passes in the NE game, it was easy to gameplan for by KC.
RE: Screen Game? - WeezyBengal - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 10:15 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: KC was ready for the screens. Good teams prepare and defend well. KC and Spag have really improved there. But we held Kelce to 1 catch 6 yards and Mahomes his lowest passing yards as a starter ever.
The Kelce/Mahomes dynamic is going to be so interesting to watch going forward.
Kelce looks like a shell of himself and is aging. Mahomes relied on him for so much. It's fair to see how it's going to effect Mahomes going forward.
RE: Screen Game? - casear2727 - 09-17-2024
Going into the Super Bowl, the Rams were dead last defending screen passes. We did not try a single screen that game.
RE: Screen Game? - Fan_in_Kettering - 09-17-2024
For some reason the Bengals throw screens and don’t have blockers set up.
RE: Screen Game? - WeezyBengal - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 11:01 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: For some reason the Bengals throw screens and don’t have blockers set up.
On the one Cappa and someone else were out front blocking but just completely whiffed and stood there.
I think a lot of it comes down to the athleticism of our OL. Hard for them to pull and get out in space to block.
RE: Screen Game? - bfine32 - 09-17-2024
Something related is that Tony Romo taught me something. On the screen Jones blew up Burrow just spiked the ball into the ground and was under no pressure. I thought to myself "Why didn't he at least try to make a play" Romo heard my thoughts and said "At that point, you have no choice but to spike it or you're going to get called for linemen downfield.
RE: Screen Game? - Nepa - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 11:39 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Something related is that Tony Romo taught me something. On the screen Jones blew up Burrow just spiked the ball into the ground and was under no pressure. I thought to myself "Why didn't he at least try to make a play" Romo heard my thoughts and said "At that point, you have no choice but to spike it or you're going to get called for linemen downfield.
I missed that but very good point by Romo. Thanks for pointing it out.
RE: Screen Game? - Sled21 - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 10:33 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: The Kelce/Mahomes dynamic is going to be so interesting to watch going forward.
Kelce looks like a shell of himself and is aging. Mahomes relied on him for so much. It's fair to see how it's going to effect Mahomes going forward.
He got Swiftboated...... she sucked the life right out of him.
RE: Screen Game? - Nepa - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 01:19 PM)Sled21 Wrote: He got Swiftboated...... she sucked the life right out of him.
I pass caught for 5 yards, but the TV cameras still found many opportunities to highlight Taylor Swift in the VIP box hugging and jumping up and down thinking Kelce was doing fantastic.
RE: Screen Game? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 09:40 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Why does our screen game suck every year?
There were about three screens sniffed out in the Chiefs game where Burrow has to spike the ball or just throw it down field.
I'd love to get Chase Brown the ball more in these situations and in space more, but it seems like we are just incapable of running good screen plays.
What's the deal here? Play design? Players tipping/not selling it?
We were very good on screens last year, don't know what you are talking about here. Against the Chiefs Chris Jones was just sniffing them out.
RE: Screen Game? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 01:19 PM)Sled21 Wrote: He got Swiftboated...... she sucked the life right out of him.
Vampire eh? Wouldn't surprise me lol
RE: Screen Game? - WeezyBengal - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 01:48 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: We were very good on screens last year, don't know what you are talking about here. Against the Chiefs Chris Jones was just sniffing them out.
The data has shown that the Bengals have been one of the worst screen teams in the NFL over the past few years.
RE: Screen Game? - Soonerpeace - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 11:05 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: On the one Cappa and someone else were out front blocking but just completely whiffed and stood there.
I think a lot of it comes down to the athleticism of our OL. Hard for them to pull and get out in space to block.
This but Mims will help that.
RE: Screen Game? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 03:28 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: The data has shown that the Bengals have been one of the worst screen teams in the NFL over the past few years.
Some of our biggest plays last year were in the Screen game to our RB's, namely Chase Brown on that one screen where he hit nearly 23 mph.
Surprised the data shows this honestly, agree that it has been bad this year though.
(09-17-2024, 03:30 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: This but Mims will help that.
Sure would like to see the athleticism of Mims out there on screens that is for sure.
RE: Screen Game? - TheLeonardLeap - 09-17-2024
(09-17-2024, 10:33 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: The Kelce/Mahomes dynamic is going to be so interesting to watch going forward.
Kelce looks like a shell of himself and is aging. Mahomes relied on him for so much. It's fair to see how it's going to effect Mahomes going forward.
Age is undefeated. I wonder if a bit of it has to do with him being more focused on his podcast and billionaire girlfriend than the game. Not saying I would do any better with staying motivated with already having 3 rings, probably way over $100m (he's nearly there just from his NFL contracts), and now hyper-fame, so no real judgement there, just wondering.