(10-28-2024, 09:48 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: You hear all kinds of excuses. When Tee is out we're not good, Burton doesn't know the offense, Moss was a set back, Burrow has regressed, We have no true WR #3, of course the play calling, and on and on. And I'm not saying there isn't any truth there, however.

The true problem is we just aren't good enough up front, in the trenches. We have like 3 can maybe push it to 4 decent O and Dlineman out of 9. We suck at run blocking, we regularly see way too much pressure on JB coming up the middle.

We get very little to no pressure on opposing QB's outside of Hendrickson. We get gashed in the run game. The defense can't get off the field and the offense can't stay on it. Why??

We suck in the trenches.

(10-28-2024, 09:54 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: The DL is the biggest issue on this team. I believe we had 0 sacks and 1 QB hit yesterday for the whole game. And that was with Fred Johnson in at LT.

Ossai and Murphy look like busts. Hubbard is 2nd on the team in sacks with 2. You won’t win many games like that. And they haven’t.

(10-28-2024, 09:50 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Dig deeper. 

The problem is not paying our good players, letting them walk, and replacing them with inferior, cheaper talent either through free agency or whiffed draft picks. The coaching staff is now being exposed because they can't lean on elite talent. 

It ALWAYS comes back to the front office with this organization. Always.

(10-28-2024, 09:54 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: The DL is the biggest issue on this team. I believe we had 0 sacks and 1 QB hit yesterday for the whole game. And that was with Fred Johnson in at LT.

Ossai and Murphy look like busts. Hubbard is 2nd on the team in sacks with 2. You won’t win many games like that. And they haven’t.

(10-28-2024, 10:02 AM)TheCincinnatiKid Wrote: Yep, trenches are a major problem. They aren't good enough to sufficiently protect our QB or create room for the running game. Thus the offence is working at a deficit with its OL. The DL was once good, but is now older and more knackered. Teams who don't have to fear a DL coming at them will have a far more relaxed time at moving the ball. Especially when that defence cannot stop the run.

Let's face it, we aren't a well built football team. It's great we have Burrow and Chase, but that is not a formula to win on its own. An offence which cannot run the ball or protect the QB, and is relying on great QB play on every down, is not being sufficiently supported. Add on the fact that the offence than has to try and offset an appallingly bad defence and you end up with Joe Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase basically needing to be perfect on every down.

It's quite a short answer if you were to deal with the question 'what are the Bengals strengths'. We aren't at all well-rounded a team.

(10-28-2024, 09:48 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: You hear all kinds of excuses. When Tee is out we're not good, Burton doesn't know the offense, Moss was a set back, Burrow has regressed, We have no true WR #3, of course the play calling, and on and on. And I'm not saying there isn't any truth there, however.

The true problem is we just aren't good enough up front, in the trenches. We have like 3 can maybe push it to 4 decent O and Dlineman out of 9. We suck at run blocking, we regularly see way too much pressure on JB coming up the middle.

We get very little to no pressure on opposing QB's outside of Hendrickson. We get gashed in the run game. The defense can't get off the field and the offense can't stay on it. Why??

We suck in the trenches.

(10-28-2024, 09:59 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Rankins has also been a bust of a FA pickup for how much he's getting paid. Been a non difference maker. 

(10-28-2024, 10:09 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I don't disagree at all with what you're saying.

I'm just saying the real problem isn't WR's, RB's, TE's the QB, the LBers or DB's or play calling.

IT"S UP FRONT

(10-28-2024, 10:57 AM)Timanky12 Wrote: The teams with the biggest front office and scouting staff are the ones who continue to complete for playoff spots and Superbowls.

We hit lightning in a can in 2021 and 2022, but those days are over. This offense is not a power offense, it’s a finesse offense with a couple of weapons, that’s too easy to shut down, when you can’t run the ball.

Until we get professional scouts to help with identifying OL and DL talent, this teams playoff aspirations are done.

(10-28-2024, 11:13 AM)Synric Wrote: The issue isn't the number of scouts. Hell most teams area scouts pull double duty with scouting services. The issue is the Front Office guys who stack the board from those scouting reports. I would guess it's Mike Potts, Duke Tobin, the HC, and Coordinators that do most of the board stacking. 

(10-28-2024, 10:57 AM)Timanky12 Wrote: The teams with the biggest front office and scouting staff are the ones who continue to complete for playoff spots and Superbowls.

We hit lightning in a can in 2021 and 2022, but those days are over. This offense is not a power offense, it’s a finesse offense with a couple of weapons, that’s too easy to shut down, when you can’t run the ball.

Until we get professional scouts to help with identifying OL and DL talent, this teams playoff aspirations are done.

(10-28-2024, 10:52 AM)Timanky12 Wrote: We lost the Super Bowl, because Burrow needed another second or 2, to throw the pass to Chase, who was wide open because the defender was falling down. Instead, he had to dump it off to the running back for incomplete pass.