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Outside of Burrow/Higgins/Chase - Our drafting has been really bad - THE PISTONS - 11-08-2024
So the spot the Bengals are in is hard to fix for me.
Defense lacks talent at basically every level. (LB having the best position group.)
Offensive line is so-so. RB room is filled with non-NFL starters. WR's outside of Chase and Higgins likely wouldn't play on most teams. TE group is so-so.
We've whiffed in free agency on a lot of guys except maybe Orlando Brown Jr.
Trey wanted traded this past offseason. Chase contract situation is there.
Most of the guys we've drafted do not look like they'll turn into good Pros.
Coaching staff isn't developing players.
And Burrow's contract is kicking in. Chase will get a huge contract.
How do you fix this? It's not like they can just flip a switch and draft better or sign a bunch of good free agents.
RE: Outside of Burrow/Higgins/Chase - Our drafting has been really bad - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-08-2024
(11-08-2024, 11:02 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: So the spot the Bengals are in is hard to fix for me.
Defense lacks talent at basically every level. (LB having the best position group.)
Offensive line is so-so. RB room is filled with non-NFL starters. WR's outside of Chase and Higgins likely wouldn't play on most teams. TE group is so-so.
We've whiffed in free agency on a lot of guys except maybe Orlando Brown Jr.
Trey wanted traded this past offseason. Chase contract situation is there.
Most of the guys we've drafted do not look like they'll turn into good Pros.
Coaching staff isn't developing players.
And Burrow's contract is kicking in. Chase will get a huge contract.
How do you fix this? It's not like they can just flip a switch and draft better or sign a bunch of good free agents.
See, this is where I changed my mind on Marvin....we said the same thing back then. Now we're saying it again. With a different staff. So, either the front office has been making bad hires for twenty one years, or their lifer "GM" and his six scouts suck. You be the judge..... I've made up my mind on it.
RE: Outside of Burrow/Higgins/Chase - Our drafting has been really bad - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-08-2024
....oh, and I think Mims will make a good one...but your point stands .
RE: Outside of Burrow/Higgins/Chase - Our drafting has been really bad - THE PISTONS - 11-08-2024
(11-08-2024, 11:05 AM)Wyche Wrote: See, this is where I changed my mind on Marvin....we said the same thing back then. Now we're saying it again. With a different staff. So, either the front office has been making bad hires for twenty one years, or their lifer "GM" and his six scouts suck. You be the judge..... I've made up my mind on it.
It's tough to tell if a draft pick was bad or the coaches didn't develop them.
On defense, I wonder how many CB's we have that are better in Man? Lou seems to love to drop into Zone coverage and with no pass rush it gets picked apart.
RE: Outside of Burrow/Higgins/Chase - Our drafting has been really bad - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-08-2024
(11-08-2024, 11:21 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's tough to tell if a draft pick was bad or the coaches didn't develop them.
On defense, I wonder how many CB's we have that are better in Man? Lou seems to love to drop into Zone coverage and with no pass rush it gets picked apart.
He's definitely gotta change something up. I liked his gameplan last night, but they couldn't stop the pass in the second half. Of course no pressure is a problem too.
It's tough to say, but two consecutive staffs aren't developing Tobin's picks. Hell, some of his first rounders flamed out on MULTIPLE teams. Are we forgetting Oléhi, Fisher, Ross, and WJIII? So I lead more on a talent evaluation problem. Could be that huge scouting department.
RE: Outside of Burrow/Higgins/Chase - Our drafting has been really bad - TheLeonardLeap - 11-08-2024
(11-08-2024, 11:05 AM)Wyche Wrote: See, this is where I changed my mind on Marvin....we said the same thing back then. Now we're saying it again. With a different staff. So, either the front office has been making bad hires for twenty one years, or their lifer "GM" and his six scouts suck. You be the judge..... I've made up my mind on it.
Six? LUXURY!
Our FO page only has 4 people with the word "Scout" somewhere in their title.
RE: Outside of Burrow/Higgins/Chase - Our drafting has been really bad - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-08-2024
(11-08-2024, 12:01 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Six? LUXURY!
Our FO page only has 4 people with the word "Scout" somewhere in their title.
Damn, I thought it was six, which is embarrassing enough, but four is PATHETIC.
RE: Outside of Burrow/Higgins/Chase - Our drafting has been really bad - THE PISTONS - 11-08-2024
The coaches scout too unless that changed.
RE: Outside of Burrow/Higgins/Chase - Our drafting has been really bad - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-08-2024
(11-08-2024, 12:09 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The coaches scout too unless that changed.
Probably not....but that's an awful lot to ask in season. Especially for a young/inexperienced staff. Six years in, it's different, but years 1-3 is just negligence on the part of the front office.
RE: Outside of Burrow/Higgins/Chase - Our drafting has been really bad - WeezyBengal - 11-08-2024
Yes, we know.