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Thoughts on possible coaching changes - SunsetBengal - 11-26-2024 Seems like this reporter is feeling about the same as most of us, it's time for Anarumo and Pollack to go. https://atozsports.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals-news/bengals-mailbag-coaches-on-the-hot-seat-cam-taylor-britts-quandary-and-other-answers-to-critical-questions/#google_vignette Quote:12 weeks and 11 games are in the books for the Cincinnati Bengals, though most want to move on to another chapter already. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - bengalfan74 - 11-26-2024 It's time for a major shakeup IMHO. New blood, new ways. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 10:29 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: It's time for a major shakeup IMHO. New blood, new ways. Starting with the personnel department of the front office. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - THE PISTONS - 11-26-2024 They'd probably change position coaches fairly easily. I don't know if they'd get rid of Lou. Not saying he shouldn't go. Just I think him and Zac are close. Changes need made. With the close losses though, I could see them just deciding to make small tweaks...IMO which would be the wrong decision. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - THE PISTONS - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 10:48 AM)Wyche Wrote: Starting with the personnel department of the front office. Yep. And unfortunately, this is probably the least likely. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 10:52 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Yep. And unfortunately, this is probably the least likely. ....and the biggest problem. What the author says about Duke Tobin and his failures in the trenches across both staffs and multiple position coaches is exactly what I've been echoing for a month or more. It's even made me reconsider my stance on Marvin. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - SunsetBengal - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 10:48 AM)Wyche Wrote: Starting with the personnel department of the front office. Considering the nature of his position and the curiousness of him not actually having full GM "powers", it would be really tough for the Bengals to get anyone else who is actually better suited for the position to come in and accept that limited role, particularly with NFL GMs getting turned over about as much as HCs do. As much as we'd like to see an upgrade from Duke, I just don't think that it's in the cards for us. However, noting what the author wrote about Duke's failures in securing the trenches over the span of multiple coaching staffs, perhaps it's time for the team to expand that office and bring in a Co-Director of player personnel? Someone to focus specifically on linemen on both sides of the ball. Allow Duke to focus on what he's better at and give him a strong resource to cover his shortcomings. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - ERIC1 - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 09:25 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Seems like this reporter is feeling about the same as most of us, it's time for Anarumo and Pollack to go. as I have maintained..with the many injuries..and certainly on both lines..receivers ,tight ends..and some players playing with significant injuries..the coaches have this team playing very competitively..but change can be good...we will see..My only gripe is that the "coaches" did not have this team ready to play on week one..again RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 11:05 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Considering the nature of his position and the curiousness of him not actually having full GM "powers", it would be really tough for the Bengals to get anyone else who is actually better suited for the position to come in and accept that limited role, particularly with NFL GMs getting turned over about as much as HCs do. As much as we'd like to see an upgrade from Duke, I just don't think that it's in the cards for us. Yes. More scouts, and someone or someones that specialize in line play. Isn't Paul Jr associated with the personnel side? I've been on Duke's case a lot lately, but it's like the video Goodberry put out says.... you're asking Tobin and the coaches to do this with one hand tied behind their backs. The success they've had since Marvin arrived is really kind of remarkable, all things considered. We could, and maybe even should, be still stuck in the abyss. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - WeezyBengal - 11-26-2024 Im not bailing on ZT quite yet, but I would agree...Lou and Pollack need to go...and I think they will. I do think they need to clean house of some of the players as well. I think there are a number of guys just straight up not producing and other guys not taking this whole thing near serious enough. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - SunsetBengal - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 11:20 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Im not bailing on ZT quite yet, but I would agree...Lou and Pollack need to go...and I think they will. Yeah, contrary to another thread that I created calling for his replacement that I posted while angry and frustrated with the season, I tend to agree with you. A strong defensive mind needs to be brought in to replace Anarumo, preferably someone with past Head Coaching experience... I'm looking at you, Mike Vrabel. That person also needs to have strong input into personnel acquisition during the draft and free agency, as well as the ability to shape his own staff of position coaches. Something needs to be done about that damn OL as well, and I don't think that it's quite as simple as "replace Pollack". While replacing Frank Pollack may very well be a key facet in fixing what's wrong with the OL and rushing attack, game planning and play calling are equally culpable for putting the OL in a position to fail in short yardage and sustaining blocks in pass pro. In other words, Zac needs to respect the running game as an essential part of an offensive game plan. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - bengalfan74 - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 10:48 AM)Wyche Wrote: Starting with the personnel department of the front office. Lets hope We need new direction, new hope, new style, not that we've had a style. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - bengalfan74 - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 10:59 AM)Wyche Wrote: ....and the biggest problem. What the author says about Duke Tobin and his failures in the trenches across both staffs and multiple position coaches is exactly what I've been echoing for a month or more. It's even made me reconsider my stance on Marvin. X two for me RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - WeezyBengal - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 11:40 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, contrary to another thread that I created calling for his replacement that I posted while angry and frustrated with the season, I tend to agree with you. A strong defensive mind needs to be brought in to replace Anarumo, preferably someone with past Head Coaching experience... I'm looking at you, Mike Vrabel. That person also needs to have strong input into personnel acquisition during the draft and free agency, as well as the ability to shape his own staff of position coaches. Bringing in Vrabel would be incredible. I wonder if he'd be up for a coordinator gig. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - SunsetBengal - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 12:18 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Bringing in Vrabel would be incredible. I wonder if he'd be up for a coordinator gig. It's not uncommon for former HCs to return as coordinators, sometimes it helps some of them to springboard back into the HC ranks, for others they discover that they really enjoy the hands-on aspect of being a coordinator. Someone like Vrabel could come in here and change the culture of the defense back to the standard it was under Marvin and Zimmer. If the Bengals are interested in Vrabel, they had best get their interview scheduled early as I suspect that Mike V. will be a hot commodity this offseason. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - Wyche'sWarrior - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 11:40 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, contrary to another thread that I created calling for his replacement that I posted while angry and frustrated with the season, I tend to agree with you. A strong defensive mind needs to be brought in to replace Anarumo, preferably someone with past Head Coaching experience... I'm looking at you, Mike Vrabel. That person also needs to have strong input into personnel acquisition during the draft and free agency, as well as the ability to shape his own staff of position coaches. The two guards are bottom 7th of the league. That's a REAL problem. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - SunsetBengal - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 01:04 PM)Wyche Wrote: The two guards are bottom 7th of the league. That's a REAL problem. The Bengals organization is in need of a makeover, from executive decision making, player personnel acquisition and retainment, talent evaluation, coaching at all levels, and last but not least, some of the actual players. Now, will we see all or any of those improvements happen? Likely not, in fact we're more likely to get a coupon for a small fries and a kid's frosty signed by Mr. Brown himself. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - ochocincos - 11-26-2024 Who would be some OL and DL coaching targets if Pollack/Hobby is let go? RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 11-26-2024 Aside from ZT as play caller and Pollack as OL coach, I am comfortable keeping the offensive staff. On D, I think everyone needs to go. And Duke. And Mike & Katie, but that ain't happening. RE: Thoughts on possible coaching changes - jason - 11-26-2024 (Yesterday, 12:50 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It's not uncommon for former HCs to return as coordinators, sometimes it helps some of them to springboard back into the HC ranks, for others they discover that they really enjoy the hands-on aspect of being a coordinator. Someone like Vrabel could come in here and change the culture of the defense back to the standard it was under Marvin and Zimmer. Mike may be getting a call from the 614 area code should Ryan Day lose to Michigan again this year too. |