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What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - Bengalstripes9 - 12-02-2024
Hypothetical1: assume bengals sign Bill Belicheck and give him the keys.
What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Joe Burrow in this scenario?
Hypothetical 2: bengals don’t sign Bill Belicheck.
What are the chances bengals win a Super Bowl with Joe Burrow?
At this point the Bengals have wasted the easiest stretch of their Super Bowl window with Chase and burrow at smaller contracts.
As an aside I’d like to say Zac has done a good job building a winning culture and the offense is certainly rolling.
However, that winning culture has turned into a losing culture quickly.
I think they need a good coach that can coach all sides of the ball—not just offense. Bill is great at the details, game planning in all 3 phases, and making the most out of lesser players. That’s exactly what the defense needs.
With the players on offense any decent OC could be successful.
I don’t think it will happen but I put the chances of the bengals winning a Super Bowl without Belicheck at 25% assuming they are sticking with their typical head coach pick (lesser known unproven coach). This may be a tad high because they are 0-5 in their prime-est of Super Bowl windows.
With Belicheck I’m going with 75% chance they win a Super Bowl based on Bill’s track record of winning one every two and a half years or so.
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - Bengalfan4life27c - 12-02-2024
My only problem with Belichick is most of his offensive coaches are either incompetent, toxic or both no decent offensive mind would work under Belichick. If we gave him roster + coaching if he traded Chase for picks I would blow a gasket.
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - Sled21 - 12-02-2024
Belicheat to Cincinnati to work for the Brown family is delusional. I don't know why people keep bringing him up.
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - Bengalstripes9 - 12-02-2024
(12-02-2024, 03:16 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Belicheat to Cincinnati to work for the Brown family is delusional. I don't know why people keep bringing him up.
Im not saying it will happen.
In fact, I predict it won’t happen.
That said, if you want the team to win, SHOULD it happen?
If the bengals want to get serious about winning, it should happen.
Why?
He won one Super Bowl every 4 years (6 wins in 24 attempts with the patriots).
If there is an available head coach with a better resume I’m all ears.
Will it happen? Like I said probably not.
If it doesn’t happen, it’s my argument that the chances of success drop off significantly.
This is just me looking at the statistics and not getting into X’s and O’s.
You want to win, hire Bill.
PS— I voted 70% chance. Maybe that is high but if given 4 years in cincy he should win 1 based on his track record.
If he is given only 1 year I think the chance is 25% based on his batting average.
Bottom line, Bill gives you the best chance of winning because he is the best coach of all time.
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - Bengalstripes9 - 12-02-2024
One other point:
I do think the bengals are serious about winning.
I just think they don’t know what it takes to win it all as evidenced by their history.
They chased out a HOF coach who goes on to win multiple championships with another team.
If they truly understood what it takes to win in this league they would hire Bill.
It’s a no brainer.
You hire the best if you want to beat the best.
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - J24 - 12-02-2024
(12-02-2024, 03:16 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Belicheat to Cincinnati to work for the Brown family is delusional. I don't know why people keep bringing him up.
I don't know why people think Belichick coming to Cincinnati is so unrealistic.
1.) Him and Brown have similar philosophies on building teams.
2.) We have a superstar QB in his prime. Any coach would love to coach him!
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - FormerlyBengalRugby - 12-02-2024
(12-02-2024, 07:33 PM)J24 Wrote: I don't know why people think Belichick coming to Cincinnati is so unrealistic.
1.) Him and Brown have similar philosophies on building teams.
2.) We have a superstar QB in his prime. Any coach would love to coach him!
I have read and seen interviews where the Giants were touted as the team Belichick was most likely to get involved with if he got back into coaching.
I was always a fan of having an offense with a top o-line and great receiving TE's. Cheaper and extends the career of the QB, along with making any RB a very productive part of the offense and potential trade bait, think Broncos RB's in the 90's.
Currently, a prime Giovani Bernard and Rudi Johnson would flourish on this team. Neither top tier talents, just got the skill sets the offense needs in running backs.
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - Bengalstripes9 - 12-02-2024
(12-02-2024, 07:33 PM)J24 Wrote: I don't know why people think Belichick coming to Cincinnati is so unrealistic.
1.) Him and Brown have similar philosophies on building teams.
2.) We have a superstar QB in his prime. Any coach would love to coach him!
Yeah it could happen..
I think it’s more likely the bengals win some games down the stretch to save their coaches jobs and we see what happens next year.
They COULD win with this strategy. It’s possible. They came close a few years ago.
However I believe in a winner’s mindset that you do everything in your power to win and gain an advantage.
Hiring Bill would give you that edge.
If you don’t hire him you don’t get that extra advantage of his level of coaching ability.but technically it’s possible you can still win.
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - Atomic Orange - 12-02-2024
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RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - Timanky12 - 12-02-2024
Belicheck doesn’t take crap from players, if they don’t do their job or constantly mess up, he pulls them and makes them sit.
We need a coach who holds the players responsible. Zac Taylor just praises players and never says anything bad about anyone. He’s to nice a guy for the NFL.
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - samhain - 12-02-2024
In the unlikely circumstance that Zac is fired, combined with the even more unlikely chance that Bellichick replaces him, there would need to be one small stipulation IMO.
Bill would get what would amount to GM duties or at least GM decision-making power. No one overrules him. Not Duke. Not the family. Not Jim Frigging Lippincott. If someone needs benched, he gets benched regardless of his salary. If Bill wants someone in the draft while Mikey has eyes for another prospect, Bill wins, no questions asked. He gets the power that a guy with his resume should expect.
It wouldn't matter of you had Bellichick coaching, Parcells as his DC, and undead Bill Walsh as his OC if the organization is still letting non-football people make impactful personnel decisions.
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - Nately120 - 12-02-2024
Bill Bellyache is probably going to end up in Chicago, anyways. God help us if both the Lions and the Bears pull their franchises together and we continue to struggle. At least Aaron Rodgers and the Jets are sucking up all the disappointment attention this year and taking those judgmental eyes away from us.
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - Destro - 12-02-2024
He would never come here. Ownership and him would not work together. Only people coming here would be the lower level job candidates hoping to make a name for themselves as an NFL head coach.
RE: What are the chances the bengals win a Super Bowl with Bill Belicheck? - Mickeypoo - 12-03-2024
Zac is going nowhere anytime soon.