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PFF Grades vs Titans - Nicomo Cosca - 12-16-2024


An all defense top 5. Including a couple of the board whipping boys. If Weezy or anyone else has the rest please post them.

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - Nicomo Cosca - 12-16-2024

Murphy’s 35% pass rush win rate was the 2nd highest of the season by any Bengal. He has a golden opportunity over these last few games with Hubbard likely out.

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - bengalfan74 - 12-16-2024

WOW

Never would have guessed such high grades on D after that train wreck.

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - psychdoctor - 12-16-2024

(12-16-2024, 10:21 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Murphy’s 35% pass rush win rate was the 2nd highest of the season by any Bengal. He has a golden opportunity over these last few games with Hubbard likely out.

good to see.  We really need him to show up

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - Frank Booth - 12-16-2024

God I hope they keep Stone and make Murphy the full time starter with no competition

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - Nicomo Cosca - 12-16-2024

(12-16-2024, 10:30 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: God I hope they keep Stone and make Murphy the full time starter with no competition

Wait until you see Volson’s grade…

To arms Cordell Calvary! Volson Vanguard coming for Frank Booth! Ninja

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - Frank Booth - 12-16-2024

(12-16-2024, 10:34 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Wait until you see Volson’s grade…

To arms Cordell Calvary! Volson Vanguard coming for Frank Booth! Ninja

I bet he's improving and taking the next step

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - bfine32 - 12-16-2024

(12-16-2024, 10:30 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: God I hope they keep Stone and make Murphy the full time starter with no competition

I'm also mad they preformed well 

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - Frank Booth - 12-16-2024

(12-16-2024, 10:37 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'm also mad they preformed well 

it'd be great if they didnt wait til week 15 against the titans

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - Nepa - 12-16-2024

(12-16-2024, 10:13 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:
An all defense top 5. Including a couple of the board whipping boys. If Weezy or anyone else has the rest please post them.

And one of the big whipping boys on last week's PFF grade posting was McKinley Jackson, who had the second highest PFF grade yesterday.

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - Sled21 - 12-17-2024

(12-16-2024, 11:21 PM)Nepa Wrote: And one of the big whipping boys on last week's PFF grade posting was McKinley Jackson, who had the second highest PFF grade yesterday.

Yeah, he's a bum... right Hilarious

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - bengalfan74 - 12-17-2024

(12-16-2024, 10:27 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: good to see.  We really need him to show up

Yes we do

And perhaps it's finally coming together for him?

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - Truck_1_0_1_ - 12-17-2024

(12-16-2024, 10:21 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Murphy’s 35% pass rush win rate was the 2nd highest of the season by any Bengal. He has a golden opportunity over these last few games with Hubbard likely out.

Hubbard's done for the year, so he's definitely going to see the Lion's share of the snaps. Ready for it!

(12-16-2024, 11:21 PM)Nepa Wrote: And one of the big whipping boys on last week's PFF grade posting was McKinley Jackson, who had the second highest PFF grade yesterday.

Which I don't know why, he gets great push for a space eater and he has a wicked first step: I wrote this on Twitter yesterday and had like 11 likes in an hour or something lol, he's not Reader, but McKinnley will be a good player for many years for us, I feel.

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - kalibengal - 12-17-2024

(12-16-2024, 10:13 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:
An all defense top 5. Including a couple of the board whipping boys. If Weezy or anyone else has the rest please post them.

I am SMH on the constant postings on Murphys "Win Rate", what exactly does this really mean? 
I do not notice him when he is on the field and good pass rushers get noticed and convert so called "wins" into pressures, hits to QB , sacks or TFLs.
He is a bust and we need to get a legit threat opposite Trey. I'm seeing other players around the league picked later then him in that draft KILLING it. 

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - Nicomo Cosca - 12-17-2024

(Yesterday, 11:33 AM)kalibengal Wrote: I am SMH on the constant postings on Murphys "Win Rate", what exactly does this really mean? 
I do not notice him when he is on the field and good pass rushers get noticed and convert so called "wins" into pressures, hits to QB, sacks or TFLs.
He is a bust and we need to get a legit threat opposite Trey. I'm seeing other players around the league picked later than him in that draft KILLING it. 

I believe he had 3 pressures and a QB hit against the Titans. One of them on JC Latham helped cause the Newton INT. Anyway, I’m no big Myles Murphy guy, but it’s ok to give credit when it’s due. He doesn’t have to be “assberries” or a bust, just like I’m not ready to pencil him in as a starter or pretend that EDGE isn’t a need. Let’s see if he can build off his good game over these last few weeks.

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 12-17-2024

Why are people so surprised at high D grades?

The D got 6 TOs, scored a TD (should have been 2). Yes, they gave up 27, but 1 was garbage time and our own 4 TOs gave a lot of short fields.

As for the grades, that is 2 good (fantastic) weeks in a row for Stone. Jackson's best game of the year by a mile. Murphy turning into a Hubbard level DE would help us a ton.

And I know everyone is into tear it downode, but BJ Hill and Hilton can still play some. Outside of Higgins & maybe Gesicki, they are our two best FA's. Hilton is best best run defending corner in the league, FWIW. Every so slightly below avg in coverage.

But if Stone closes well enough to think he can be an asset next year at FS (or at least not a liability) AND Murphy can give us something at LDE, AND Jackson isn't a seive anymore, then our off season to do list gets a lot shorter and more manageable. And less expensive.

I know it is just one game, & TN stinks, but encouraging signs.

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - SunsetBengal - 12-17-2024

(Yesterday, 12:10 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Why are people so surprised at high D grades?

The D got 6 TOs, scored a TD (should have been 2). Yes, they gave up 27, but 1 was garbage time and our own 4 TOs gave a lot of short fields.

As for the grades, that is 2 good (fantastic) weeks in a row for Stone. Jackson's best game of the year by a mile. Murphy turning into a Hubbard level DE would help us a ton.

And I know everyone is into tear it downode, but BJ Hill and Hilton can still play some. Outside of Higgins & maybe Gesicki, they are our two best FA's. Hilton is best best run defending corner in the league, FWIW. Every so slightly below avg in coverage.

But if Stone closes well enough to think he can be an asset next year at FS (or at least not a liability) AND Murphy can give us something at LDE, AND Jackson isn't a seive anymore, then our off season to do list gets a lot shorter and more manageable. And less expensive.

I know it is just one game, & TN stinks, but encouraging signs.

The problem with believing in those guys is the fear that they will come back next year and play like they did for most of this season, very poorly. Let's not forget that while on this mini hot streak, the Bengals have been facing teams that are even more pathetic than they have been for most of the season.

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 12-17-2024

Just for fun.

Defensive Ends: # of Ranked Players via PFF = 202

Player Grades & Ranks; Overall/Pass Rush/Run D
Hendrickson: 85.4/90.1/68.6 (11th/5th/42nd)
Hubbard: 58.9/47.6/67.7 (114th/193rd/51st) 
Ossai: 57.2/59.2/55.4 (127th/106th/136th)
Murphy: 55.5/56.4/47.3 (145th/129th/179th)
Johnson: 61.5/54.7/66.3 (99th/147th/60th)


Player Stats & Ranks: Snaps, Pressures, Sacks, Solo Tackles, Assists, Forced Fumbles
Hendrickson: 672/67/13/18/6/2; 15th/2nd/1st/46th/51st/5th
Hubbard: 521/18/2/30/12/1; 44th/80th/92nd/12th/8th/20th
Ossai: 423/21/2(3)/17/12/0; 65th/71st/92nd(up)/51st/8th/75th
Murphy: 270/17/0/15/4/0; 101st/83rd/139th/65th/83rd/75th
Johnson: 57/0/0/3/0/0; 160th/183rd/139th/147th/165th/75th

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - SunsetBengal - 12-17-2024

(Yesterday, 12:22 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Just for fun.

Defensive Ends: # of Ranked Players via PFF = 202

Player Grades & Ranks; Overall/Pass Rush/Run D
Hendrickson: 85.4/90.1/68.6 (11th/5th/42nd)


Player Stats & Ranks: Snaps, Pressures, Sacks, Solo Tackles, Assists, Forced Fumbles
Hendrickson: 672/67/13/18/6/2; 15th/2nd/1st/46th/51st/5th

Yes, pay the man his bonus and get him some help out there.

RE: PFF Grades vs Titans - WeezyBengal - 12-17-2024

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