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Playing QB on Hard Mode - Nicomo Cosca - 12-30-2024
Pretty eye opening stuff here from Joe Goodberry:
What does playing QB on "Hard Mode" look like?
Percentage of Passes Thrown Behind the Line
Josh Allen - 19.5%
Lamar Jackson - 17.4%
Joe Burrow - 12.0%
Percentage Of Screen Passes Thrown
Allen - 13.1%
Lamar - 11.9%
Burrow - 6.1%
Percentage Of Play-action Passes
Allen - 21.8%
Lamar - 29.1%
Burrow - 19.9%
Percentage of Pressured Dropbacks under 2.5 seconds
Allen - 13.0%
Lamar - 8.9%
Burrow - 14.8%
Percentage of Pressured Dropbacks after 2.5 seconds
Allen - 48.5%
Lamar - 53.8%
Burrow - 57.7%
Percentage of Passes under Pressure where the QB shares blame
Allen - 20.1%
Lamar - 19.5%
Burrow - 13.3%
Passer Rating when under Pressure
Allen - 73.1
Lamar - 90.6
Burrow - 104.5
OL Pass Blocking Grade Rank (PFF)
Allen - 5th
Lamar - 7th
Burrow - 29th
PFF Rushing Grade Rank
Allen - 2nd
Lamar - 1st
Burrow - 27th
Rushing Game Success Rate
Allen - 44.9%
Lamar - 46.7%
Burrow - 36.5%
Running Game EPA Rank
Allen - 2nd
Lamar - 3rd
Burrow - 18th
Defensive EPA/play Rank
Allen - 12th
Lamar - 14th
Burrow - 27th
RE: Playing QB on Hard Mode - Nicomo Cosca - 12-30-2024
Liscow touches on the same thing here.
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— Jake Liscow (@JakeLiscow) December 29, 2024
But as I perused the discourse around Burrow and this year's MVP race, which centers on also-worthy candidates in Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, I decided to writehttps://t.co/2oZlPetWgP
RE: Playing QB on Hard Mode - Stewy - 12-30-2024
(12-30-2024, 03:23 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Pretty eye opening stuff here from Joe Goodberry:
What does playing QB on "Hard Mode" look like?
Percentage of Passes Thrown Behind the Line
Josh Allen - 19.5%
Lamar Jackson - 17.4%
Joe Burrow - 12.0%
Percentage Of Screen Passes Thrown
Allen - 13.1%
Lamar - 11.9%
Burrow - 6.1%
Percentage Of Play-action Passes
Allen - 21.8%
Lamar - 29.1%
Burrow - 19.9%
Percentage of Pressured Dropbacks under 2.5 seconds
Allen - 13.0%
Lamar - 8.9%
Burrow - 14.8%
Percentage of Pressured Dropbacks after 2.5 seconds
Allen - 48.5%
Lamar - 53.8%
Burrow - 57.7%
Percentage of Passes under Pressure where the QB shares blame
Allen - 20.1%
Lamar - 19.5%
Burrow - 13.3%
Passer Rating when under Pressure
Allen - 73.1
Lamar - 90.6
Burrow - 104.5
OL Pass Blocking Grade Rank (PFF)
Allen - 5th
Lamar - 7th
Burrow - 29th
PFF Rushing Grade Rank
Allen - 2nd
Lamar - 1st
Burrow - 27th
Rushing Game Success Rate
Allen - 44.9%
Lamar - 46.7%
Burrow - 36.5%
Running Game EPA Rank
Allen - 2nd
Lamar - 3rd
Burrow - 18th
Defensive EPA/play Rank
Allen - 12th
Lamar - 14th
Burrow - 27th
Holy Cow....
RE: Playing QB on Hard Mode - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 12-30-2024
Yeah, honestly these percentages and numbers do not surprise me. Joe is by far the best QB this season with so much on his
shoulders. If we don't make the Playoffs I would vote for Saquon for this reason and it would be nice to see another position
besides QB get the MVP again, Saquon deserves it if we don't make the Playoffs. But if we do Joe should be MVP.
I know he won't win it regardless, but it is pretty remarkable how good Joe Burrow has been with all the shit that goes wrong
for him. I know, having the best WR duo in the league helps him, this is the one thing besides Chase Brown coming into his
own. The interior OL play has to be by far the worst of any QB that has played well this season.
RE: Playing QB on Hard Mode - Destro - 12-30-2024
Not going to quote the whole thing again, but by god Joe Burrow does so much despite all the bad on this team.
RE: Playing QB on Hard Mode - TheLeonardLeap - 12-30-2024
Passes per game..
Bengals: 37.9
Ravens: 27.8
Bills: 30.5
Rushes per game..
Bengals: 22.4
Ravens: 32.4
Bills: 28.6
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Almost like they have coaches/coordinators who understand the value in maintaining some offensive variety and balance so they don't just constantly get teed off on in passing attempts. Slowing the pass rush even just a fraction of a step because they can't just pin their ears back and rush is huge.
Burrow also has the lowest share among the three of pass attempts coming from while under center and BY FAR the lowest share of the three of pass attempts on play action.
Passes with Play Action...
Burrow: 9.3%
L Jackson: 22.6%
Allen: 17.8%
"We're going to throw it, we're going to throw it from shotgun, and we're not going to play action..... wait, why does it feel like they're pressuring us more?"
Does anyone know where one can find stats on what % of throws are to pass catchers that are either stationary or moving <3mph?
RE: Playing QB on Hard Mode - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 12-30-2024
(12-30-2024, 04:54 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Passes per game..
Bengals: 37.9
Ravens: 27.8
Bills: 30.5
Rushes per game..
Bengals: 22.4
Ravens: 32.4
Bills: 28.6
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Almost like they have coaches/coordinators who understand the value in maintaining some offensive variety and balance so they don't just constantly get teed off on in passing attempts. Slowing the pass rush even just a fraction of a step because they can't just pin their ears back and rush is huge.
Burrow also has the lowest share among the three of pass attempts coming from while under center and BY FAR the lowest share of the three of pass attempts on play action.
Passes with Play Action...
Burrow: 9.3%
L Jackson: 22.6%
Allen: 17.8%
Yep, he is handcuffed by the coaches as well. It is crazy what he has been able to do with all of this shit.
RE: Playing QB on Hard Mode - TheLeonardLeap - 12-30-2024
(12-30-2024, 04:58 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yep, he is handcuffed by the coaches as well. It is crazy what he has been able to do with all of this shit.
Yup.
Nicomo posted the stat about throws behind the LoS, but what I want to know is throws within ~3 yards of the LoS. That's where Zac lives, 2-3 yards past the LoS to stationary pass catchers.
Intended Air Yards Per Attempt
Burrow: 7.3
L Jackson: 8.5
Allen: 7.9
SB year Burrow was at 8.1