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Partying and Being Fat. - samhain - 01-12-2025
I had the pitchforks out for Lou as much as anyone. Time will tell if the decision to fire him was correct or merely an out for Zac to defend a disappointing season. A blood sacrifice was in order, and Lou was the most obvious.
With that in mind, there have been rumors about certain defensive players and a lack of professionalism. Battle, who showed promise, struggled to get snaps early on. Many gave Lou a ration of shit for this. Now, I'm hearing that Battle came to camp significantly overweight and slow. Not Bell and Lou favoritism. Not Lou being stuck in is ways about veterans and youth. It was a player coming in fat. That's as unprofessional as it gets if true.
CTB, oddly regressed after playing well as a rookie and in his second year. Mental lapses killed him. Lately, there have been hints that he'd embraced more of a party lifestyle this year and that it impacts this play. It's weird to me considering what a good kid he has always appeared to be.
You don't hear this stuff about Joe, Ja'marr or Tee. Or Trey. You hear about guys that shut their families out on Saturday to get focused on gameday. Obsessive professionals.
I think there may have been a bigger cultural lapse than we realize this year. These guys are scapegoats, but how many others did similar things if true?
RE: Partying and Being Fat. - Sled21 - 01-12-2025
While I was, and still somewhat am, conflicted about firing Lou because I think it's mostly talent and injuries that hamstrung him this year, something had to give. I hadn't heard that about Battle, but it makes sense. As far as CTB, I think he is well suited to be a #2 CB but not a #1. Losing Hill affected the DB room, then we lost Turner. That's a lot of speed out the door. Let alone with what went on with injuries to the D-line.
One of the main things I liked about Lou is he seemed to be able actually make halftime adjustments in a game and figure out things as the game went on, as opposed to Marvin, who said halftime adjustments don't exist.
Lou will get another position and I wish him well. We may very well rue the day we let him go.
RE: Partying and Being Fat. - ERIC1 - 01-12-2025
(11 hours ago)samhain Wrote: I had the pitchforks out for Lou as much as anyone. Time will tell if the decision to fire him was correct or merely an out for Zac to defend a disappointing season. A blood sacrifice was in order, and Lou was the most obvious.
With that in mind, there have been rumors about certain defensive players and a lack of professionalism. Battle, who showed promise, struggled to get snaps early on. Many gave Lou a ration of shit for this. Now, I'm hearing that Battle came to camp significantly overweight and slow. Not Bell and Lou favoritism. Not Lou being stuck in is ways about veterans and youth. It was a player coming in fat. That's as unprofessional as it gets if true.
CTB, oddly regressed after playing well as a rookie and in his second year. Mental lapses killed him. Lately, there have been hints that he'd embraced more of a party lifestyle this year and that it impacts this play. It's weird to me considering what a good kid he has always appeared to be.
You don't hear this stuff about Joe, Ja'marr or Tee. Or Trey. You hear about guys that shut their families out on Saturday to get focused on gameday. Obsessive professionals.
I think there may have been a bigger cultural lapse than we realize this year. These guys are scapegoats, but how many others did similar things if true?
considering our fan base..and what I would hope to be the integrity of Zac Taylor..I doubt very seriously that Lou and Pollack were "blood sacrifices"..ridiculous... furthermore your references to certain defensive players is conveniently limited.. this was the year of Burton and I can remember recent years when offensive linemen came in heavy and were forced to do hills..we had Joe Mixon a couple of years ago,,,...etc etc etc......................WE had issues on defense ..the offensive line still is not good..tackling by our linebackers......It was time to make some definitive changes. in these areas.Although we don't know all the reasons for the changes..some were pretty obvious
RE: Partying and Being Fat. - FormerlyBengalRugby - 01-12-2025
Get a second legit pass rusher opposite Trey, and everything improves.
I put this season on Lou for keeping Hubbard out there and a myriad of poor play calling decisions. WB bootleg everyone knew was coming against Pittsburgh, playing soft, off ball coverage on 3rd and short, etc..
That said with all the injuries on the d-line to start the season, and the injuries in the secondary at the end, he was already doomed to fail.
RE: Partying and Being Fat. - ERIC1 - 01-12-2025
(34 minutes ago)Sled21 Wrote: While I was, and still somewhat am, conflicted about firing Lou because I think it's mostly talent and injuries that hamstrung him this year, something had to give. I hadn't heard that about Battle, but it makes sense. As far as CTB, I think he is well suited to be a #2 CB but not a #1. Losing Hill affected the DB room, then we lost Turner. That's a lot of speed out the door. Let alone with what went on with injuries to the D-line.
One of the main things I liked about Lou is he seemed to be able actually make halftime adjustments in a game and figure out things as the game went on, as opposed to Marvin, who said halftime adjustments don't exist.
Lou will get another position and I wish him well. We may very well rue the day we let him go.
I watched Detroit play last week..First time all year..Maybe they were playing iMinnesota...the difference between the lions and the Bengals..at almost every position ..was like night vs day..and Detroit , like the Bengals had many players injured.....we don't know why Lou was let go....but until this team gets more scouts and a real GM..it will always be "close but no cigar"....Right now..Detroit..even with all their injuries..is 2 touchdowns better than the Bengals and it is going to complete organizational effort adjustment , and changes to eradicate those 14 points...I managed my entire career .sometimes people get fired not because of performance ..but of attitude that is detrimental to the entire organization.Lou always came across as an articulate and decent person..But we don't know what goes on internally. This is a tremendously important off-season for the Bengals..I don't know how contracts work..But we have impending lease negotiations..Burrow if he stays healthy it would appear that he could play another 8 years..Does he have to resign with the team when his first big contract expires..OH well I am going to enjoy the NFL playoffs, College championship..we have a new..very good manager with the Reds , they should be competitive this year and fun to watch..MLB baseball will be carrying their games ..around 20 bucks a month..LIfe is good