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ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - BFritz21 - 01-16-2025
CincyJungle has an article stating that ESPN says we should trade for Pitts since he's due 10.5 mil this year and he has underproduced for a top 5 draft pick.
Quote:Solak believes Cincinnati will trade for former fourth-overall Atlanta Falcons pick Kyle Pitts.
“Tight end Kyle Pitts is due $10.8 million on the final year of his deal in 2025. Can the Falcons get more for him in a trade than they would in a compensatory pick after he leaves in free agency? I think they could, as he has a rosier future on an offense that actually fits his skill set. My prediction: Pitts will get dealt to the Bengals for a Day 3 pick,” Solak stated.
Given how Burrow has had success with CJ Uzomah to Hayden Hurst to Mike Gesicki, so imagine what he could do with Pitts! With teams needing to double Chase, Pitts would kill it here with Burrow throwing him the ball! He'd be the perfect safety net and can even be a deep threat if you want to send him deep! He'd be matchup nightmare for defenses!
Burrow would start planning his MVP speech the minute that Pitts was signed!
The article thinks we can get him for a day 3 pick, which would be a STEAL!
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 01-16-2025
This is a silly idea.
Another $10 million underachiever and giving up draft assets to do it?
No thanks. Wait until he is a FA.
Use the pick for cost controlled help to the D (DE, DT, LB, S) or the IOL.
I'd much rather pay BJ Hill that $10 mil, or use it to pay Hilton or Gesicki with some left over.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - TheLeonardLeap - 01-16-2025
I'd trade a day 3 pick for him in a heartbeat.
Atlanta is just a bad place to be. In his 4 years there the QBs collectively have thrown for...
20 TD/15 INT
17 TD/9 INT
17 TD/17 INT
21 TD/19 INT
I'd like to see him with a real QB and if we could benefit from that, all the better. He still only be heading into his age 25 season, so if it works out he could be our TE solution for the next 5-7 years.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - Bengalbug - 01-16-2025
(Yesterday, 06:56 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I'd trade a day 3 pick for him in a heartbeat.
Atlanta is just a bad place to be. In his 4 years there the QBs collectively have thrown for...
20 TD/15 INT
17 TD/9 INT
17 TD/17 INT
21 TD/19 INT
I'd like to see him with a real QB and if we could benefit from that, all the better. He still only be heading into his age 25 season, so if it works out he could be our TE solution for the next 5-7 years.
We don’t want to pay more than 2.5m, but we will take on his $10 salary and then pay him 7-10m/year for 5-7 years. Sounds good in theory, but not realistic.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - jj22 - 01-16-2025
How did they go from ATL getting more from him in a trade then a comp pick to us sending a day 3 pick for him? He's young enough and has shown enough potential to get paid in FA still.
ATL would be foolish to get rid of weapons for their young QB.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - TheLeonardLeap - 01-16-2025
(Yesterday, 07:12 PM)jj22 Wrote: How did they go from ATL getting more from him in a trade then a comp pick to us sending a day 3 pick for him? He's young enough and has shown enough potential to get paid in FA still.
ATL would be foolish to get rid of weapons for their young QB.
Average yearly value of a contract is a major factor for comp pick calculation, and TEs are never going to be up there in that.
The highest paid TE in the league last year (Travis Kelce) was the 130th highest paid player in the NFL, 6 spots behind the 26th highest paid WR in the NFL (Jerry Jeudy).
That means a TE is most likely never going to bring you a 3rd round comp pick. Remember, Jessie Bates was barely a 3rd round comp pick at $16m/yr two years ago and only squeaked in because of being a Pro Bowler and 2nd team All-Pro that year. That means you're probably at best hoping for a 4th round comp pick, and possibly a 5th.
Any comp pick is an extra year old, and it's generally considered that each year in the future reduces the value of a pick by a full round. So lets say the Falcons are expecting a 4th round comp pick for him if he leaves in FA, that would be a 2027 (because he'd leave in the 2026 FA) 4th round comp pick. That'd be roughly the same value as a 2025 6th round comp pick. The comp picks come at the end of a round, so any normal pick of that round is better than a comp pick of that round.
So a 2025 6th round (our 191st overall) pick would actually be worth more than a 2027 4th round comp pick. A 2025 5th rounder (our 152nd overall) would be worth quite a bit more.
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(Keep in mind the Falcons are currently at -$6.3m cap space for 2025, so turning him into a 5th round pick and $10m in cap space might be currently more valuable to them than having him play for them. They still have a pretty good WR trio and Bijan Robinson at RB.)
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - CJD - 01-16-2025
We only have 6 picks in this draft because we traded one for Herbert (not that a 7th rounder really matters).
I think we should focus on getting good, young depth on this team, as we are a bit top heavy at the moment since our last few drafts have been subpar.
I don't mind the thought, but I think signing Gesicki would be cheaper and arguably just as effective.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - c766 - 01-16-2025
Around 1% of ESPNs predictions ever come true. Why would anyone care what ESPN Prognosticated? They are in the business of getting impressions, nothing more
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - BFritz21 - 01-16-2025
(Yesterday, 07:54 PM)CJD Wrote: We only have 6 picks in this draft because we traded one for Herbert (not that a 7th rounder really matters).We obviously wouldn't pay the 10.5 mil he's due, but he could see this as a perfect opportunity to put up big numbers and set himself up for his next contract, which would be big from him producing with Burrow throwing him there ball.
I think we should focus on getting good, young depth on this team, as we are a bit top heavy at the moment since our last few drafts have been subpar.
I don't mind the thought, but I think signing Gesicki would be cheaper and arguably just as effective.
We could also lace his contract with incentives.
(Yesterday, 07:55 PM)c766 Wrote: Around 1% of ESPNs predictions ever come true. Why would anyone care what ESPN Prognosticated? They are in the business of getting impressions, nothing more
It was reposted with their own positive thoughts on the matter by CincyJungle, and I think a lot of people value their opinion.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - jason - 01-16-2025
We still pretending this guy isn't a bust?
First it was Arthur Smith's fault. Then Pat Whatshisnuts in Pittsburgh, and Jonnu Smith had solid to very good years in 2024. Well if it wasn't Arthur Smith it was Desmond Ridder. Ridder for sure sucks. So Kirk Cousins isn't what he once was... Drake London and Darnell Mooney managed to have very fine seasons. Michael Penix shows up, and London finishes very strong. Kyle Pitts was a complete non factor. Pitts managed to pull off a 1000 yrd (zero TD) rookie season, and has done squat since. I dunno maybe Burrow can save him, but I'm chalking him up as a bust.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - SunsetBengal - 01-16-2025
Picking up Pitts sure would solve the Tee Higgins dilemma, just let him walk and put that extra $16M toward OL or Defense.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - FormerlyBengalRugby - 01-16-2025
I like the idea of Kyle Pitts, but not at the cost of 10M plus a pick, due more so for the 10M.
The Bengals are better suited using that money, if spent on the offensive side of the ball, on interior o-line to keep Joe healthy, upright, and bolster the running game.
Plus it would be another one year rental, as once Pitts, if he is truly not a bust, puts up numbers, Pitts will hit the open market and go someplace else.
As I see to say yearly, the Bengals do not need a splashy free agency/draft, just a solid one that sets the foundation.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - BFritz21 - 01-16-2025
(Yesterday, 08:12 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Picking up Pitts sure would solve the Tee Higgins dilemma, just let him walk and put that extra $16M toward OL or Defense.
Exactly and I think Pitts would be even more valuable than Tee because he'd keep safeties and backers in the middle of the field or risk letting Pitts take advantage of a mismatch.
He's one of the most physically gifted tight ends in the league and it's just lucky for us that the Falcons have underutilized him because of their offense and poor quarterback play.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - jason - 01-16-2025
Mike Gesicki had more catches and yards (in significantly fewer snaps) than Kyle Pitts this past season.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - SunsetBengal - 01-16-2025
(Yesterday, 09:26 PM)jason Wrote: Mike Gesicki had more catches and yards (in significantly fewer snaps) than Kyle Pitts this past season.
Let's be honest here, Atlanta has done nothing but waste Pitts' talent for 4 years due to their horrible QB situations. Every TE that Burrow has worked with has had a great year. Giving Burrow the security of a talent like Pitts for several years could pay off big.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - Nicomo Cosca - 01-16-2025
(Yesterday, 08:12 PM)jason Wrote: We still pretending this guy isn't a bust?
First it was Arthur Smith's fault. Then Pat Whatshisnuts in Pittsburgh, and Jonnu Smith had solid to very good years in 2024. Well if it wasn't Arthur Smith it was Desmond Ridder. Ridder for sure sucks. So Kirk Cousins isn't what he once was... Drake London and Darnell Mooney managed to have very fine seasons. Michael Penix shows up, and London finishes very strong. Kyle Pitts was a complete non factor. Pitts managed to pull off a 1000 yrd (zero TD) rookie season, and has done squat since. I dunno maybe Burrow can save him, but I'm chalking him up as a bust.
Right?
How was Brock Bowers QB situation in Vegas? He’s already what Pitts was supposed to be.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - bfine32 - 01-16-2025
(Yesterday, 10:00 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Right?
How was Brock Bowers QB situation in Vegas? He’s already what Pitts was supposed to be.
There could be a little wiggle room between Brock Bowers and Bust.
Perhaps Pitts falls into that tight crack
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - jason - 01-16-2025
(Yesterday, 09:39 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Let's be honest here, Atlanta has done nothing but waste Pitts' talent for 4 years due to their horrible QB situations. Every TE that Burrow has worked with has had a great year. Giving Burrow the security of a talent like Pitts for several years could pay off big.
But Darnell Mooney was able to resurrect his career in Atlanta? You're right... The Falcons haven't had Joe Burrow, but this guy was supposed to be the "generational talent" at TE. Four years in and we still haven't seen it. I think if Pitts wasn't drafted 4th overall, nobody would be excited about the prospect of trading for him. Maybe I'm wrong and it's just bad luck.
Also... Joe Burrow couldn't do anything with Irv Smith
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - jason - 01-16-2025
(Yesterday, 10:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: There could be a little wiggle room between Brock Bowers and Bust.
Perhaps Pitts falls into that tight crack
When you're drafted ahead of Ja'Marr Chase, Penei Sewell, Micah Parsons, Surtain, etc etc etc... and you've had a career like Pitts so far... You're a bust. We can call it a huge disappointment if that sounds better.
RE: ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts! - Nicomo Cosca - 01-16-2025
(Yesterday, 10:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: There could be a little wiggle room between Brock Bowers and Bust.
Perhaps Pitts falls into that tight crack
Bust relative to the hype he had as a prospect. Dude was taken before Ja’Marr Chase.