(02-26-2025, 12:13 PM)Speedy Thomas Wrote: Among the takeaways from Duke and Zac's presser:  Tee will be resigned.  Gesicki quite possibly will join the tight end out the door conga line.

If that's the case -- and given the uncertainty around All -- do we take Warren if he's there?  What about Loveland?  With Tee on board, do we want to spend first round draft capital on the 3rd option in our passing game?

Bengals first round tight end history isn't encouraging.  Last time we took TE in the first was Jermaine Gresham, over Gronk.  Two years ago we passed on LaPorta for Myles Murphy.  Maybe it's time to get it right.

Thoughts?

(02-26-2025, 01:01 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: It always depends on what the FO does with signing FA's. If we sign a stud guard and a pass rushing DE/LB or a stud DT it is possible. Personally, I love Warren, but the mocks i do he is rarely available at #17.

I hope we fix the trenches in FA so we can go best player available. I think the biggest need is OG, DT and a pass rushing DE.

If we keep Cappa, we need 1 OG. If we cut him, we need 2, possibly one FA and one via the draft.

(02-26-2025, 01:01 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: It always depends on what the FO does with signing FA's. If we sign a stud guard and a pass rushing DE/LB or a stud DT it is possible. Personally, I love Warren, but the mocks i do he is rarely available at #17.

I hope we fix the trenches in FA so we can go best player available. I think the biggest need is 2 OG's, DT and a pass rushing DE.

If we keep Cappa, we need 1 OG. If we cut him, we need 2, possibly one FA and one via the draft.

(02-26-2025, 02:26 PM)Speedy Thomas Wrote: Two OG's, fixed it for ya.    Wouldn't it be fun if they took care of absolute needs in free agency, which would free them up to actually go BPA?  I don't know if that's doable if they pay the big 3.  If somehow it did happen, Warren would be the cherry on top.  Good luck trying to stop that offense.

(02-26-2025, 12:31 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If Tee Higgins remains with the team, then no, I can't justify spending a 1st round pick on the 3rd-4th option on most plays. If Tee remains, the style of offense the Bengals run isn't likely to change much, so they need to look at blockers and pass rushers at the top of the draft.

(02-26-2025, 02:28 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Will Fries and James Daniels to go along with a good pass rusher in Josh Sweat would be a fantastic FA that would free up the Draft.

(02-26-2025, 02:33 PM)Speedy Thomas Wrote: Dream scenario.  I'd add Zeitler to Fries & Daniels and happily take two of them.

(02-26-2025, 02:29 PM)Speedy Thomas Wrote: You're probably right.  But Burrow to Chase/Tee/Warren is sure fun to contemplate.

(02-26-2025, 02:33 PM)Speedy Thomas Wrote: Dream scenario.  I'd add Zeitler to Fries & Daniels and happily take two of them.

(02-26-2025, 02:42 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Warren would be a great piece to have on the team, and likely cheaper to keep for the long haul than a WR.

(02-26-2025, 03:05 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: He will cost more, I like Becton a lot to repace Cappa. It would be a net of an extra 4 or 5 million a year, but I think he is worth it. He instantly upgrades our run blocking also. Would love him at RG by Mims at RT.

(02-26-2025, 02:14 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yep, depends on FA but I would be open to Tyler Warren or Loveland. I think either one could be great. Warren is so good at everything he 
would instantly upgrade our Offense and with the All injuries and if Mike G leaves he would be an instant starter. That is all you can ask of a 
first round pick and I think Warren or Loveland will be good right off the bat as rookies.

I want Kenneth Grant the most at 17, but I am open to one of these TE's if he is not there or something happens to make Grant not so 
appealing.

(02-28-2025, 12:13 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: I see three names flashing brightly for pick #17 at the moment; Grant, Smith, and Warren. Hey, it's good to have four or five dudes that could certainly be there at #17 on the draft board.

I posted a thread similar to this after listening to Joel Klatt expound on the Bengals taking Warren at #17. Obviously. we need defense, defense, defense, but Warren is one offensive player that I can get onboard with. He's an immediate starter if Mike G eases on. Anytime you can draft a plug-and-play type of player life is good.

Hence why the Murphy type of picks piss me off! First rd pick! Been here 3 seasons and I don't know if I've even heard his name called during a game. 

(02-28-2025, 12:38 PM)ochocincos Wrote: We've heard the Bengals rave about Erick All in the offense last year, so I get a good sense they want a guy like that who can be in without it being predictable what they will be doing.
Gesicki primarily a receiver, Sample primarily a blocker.
With All's injury track record, it may make sense to get a guy who can do both.

In that case, I lean toward Tyler Warren. Dude loves to block even more than catch passes, but he can do both very well.
Colston Loveland may have a higher ceiling as a pass catcher and replace the likes of Gesicki.

Personally, I think Warren is good enough to be a good blocker and 600+ yard guy, so I lean him over Loveland, but I can see the Bengals wanting Loveland instead if wanting a direct replacement for Gesicki.

In my more realistic world though, I bring back Gesicki and focus on the trenches in first 2-3 rounds, then address TE in the middle rounds.
TE is strong in this class and there will be some good gets in the middle rounds.
Some like Erick All but without the injury history, maybe even faster or more agile.
Maybe someone like Mason Taylor from LSU or Mitchell Evans from ND, although Taylor may go before Bengals pick in Rd 3.

(02-28-2025, 01:16 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Ocho mentioned Mason Taylor and I can get onboard with him as well: did a superb job at LSU all 3 years in both blocking and receiving.

Still like Fannin in the 3rd though, he will be a good weapon in whatever offense he's in.

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(02-28-2025, 01:16 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Ocho mentioned Mason Taylor and I can get onboard with him as well: did a superb job at LSU all 3 years in both blocking and receiving.

Still like Fannin in the 3rd though, he will be a good weapon in whatever offense he's in.