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Lucas Patrick - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2025
Sources: The #Bengals will be hosting veteran G/C Lucas Patrick on a free agent visit tomorrow. He arrives in town tonight.
— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) March 20, 2025
Patrick has started 64 games in his career and spent last year with the Saints. Cincinnati has been looking for offensive line help. pic.twitter.com/XyjcKm9UHU
Never heard of the dude, but I guess it’s something.
RE: Lucas Patrick - Bengalstripes9 - 03-20-2025
Paul Dehner on X:
“Potential help in answering the guard problem. Would add to the competition at both spots. FWIW, has allowed 0 sacks and 3 QB hits over the last two seasons (893 pass block snaps) according to PFF. Played all 3 IOL spots.“
RE: Lucas Patrick - Goalpost - 03-20-2025
https://overthecap.com/player/lucas-patrick/5441
Was never drafted. An undrafted FA in 2016.
RE: Lucas Patrick - THE PISTONS - 03-20-2025
PFF grades are decent. 64.6 overall. 60.3 Pass Blocking. 66.3 Run Blocking.
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/lucas-patrick/11435
Cappa was 50.5 overall. 39.7 Pass Blocking. 54.9 Run Blocking.
Alex Cappa | Las Vegas Raiders G | NFL and PFF stats
RE: Lucas Patrick - Joelist - 03-20-2025
Seems competent.
RE: Lucas Patrick - THE PISTONS - 03-20-2025
Won't cost a ton too...which is likely what they're looking for.
RE: Lucas Patrick - BenZoo2 - 03-20-2025
If signed I can’t imagine it would be for big money. We could easily add another one
RE: Lucas Patrick - Bengalstripes9 - 03-20-2025
One commenter on X said he had a lot of penalties. Not sure the numbers
RE: Lucas Patrick - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-20-2025
That is a cheap Volson upgrade. But still a big step down from (a healthy) Jenkins or Hernandez.
Scherff & Risner are better in pass pro, Pateick a better run blocker than either.
Scherff has always been a RG. Risner & Hernandez played all their snaps at RG last year.
Jenkins was a LG last year, but has played both sides and some tackle. Patrick played LG and C last year and has some history at all 3 spots. He is 31.
To me, this is a short term Volson upgrade with more versatility. More LG/C3.
Remember, we van save $3+ mil by waiving Volson. Another $3+ mil by waiving Moss. $7 mil between them.
RE: Lucas Patrick - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-20-2025
(03-20-2025, 12:11 PM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: One commenter on X said he had a lot of penalties. Not sure the numbers
6 in 562 snaps
104th overall.
RE: Lucas Patrick - TJHoushmandzadeh's Shiny Shoes - 03-20-2025
Bringing him in seems to be trolling those who wanted to pay big money to Teven Jenkins
From wiki “After alternating with Teven Jenkins at right guard the first two games, he was named the starter in Week 3”
RE: Lucas Patrick - coachmcneil71 - 03-20-2025
(03-20-2025, 12:00 PM)Goalpost Wrote: https://overthecap.com/player/lucas-patrick/5441
Was never drafted. An undrafted FA in 2016.
I love UDFAs that have success in the NFL. Nothing is handed to them. They earn everything they receive. Plus we've had some good luck when poaching Saints players in the past, aka Trey.
RE: Lucas Patrick - phil413 - 03-20-2025
I brought him up in another thread as the minimum of acceptable guard improvement that I'd be happy with. He's a bridge guard for probably a 2 year deal with a partial guarantee for next year, but his PFF numbers are solid for what they'd probably be paying him. Hope thus gets wrapped up for closure. Then, if another vet like Risner caves because of less interest after the draft maybe we get a bargain.
RE: Lucas Patrick - BrownAssClown - 03-20-2025
Sounds like he would be an upgrade from Cappa. Patrick seems to be versatile and can play LG, RG and Center. He's been around a while, does anybody know his injury history? He may be what the Bengals have been looking for, a small upgrade and value FA. Let's see how his visit goes.
RE: Lucas Patrick - BenZoo2 - 03-20-2025
Dehner just recently tweeted Jenkins is not happening. I’d embed it if I could
RE: Lucas Patrick - rfaulk34 - 03-20-2025
(03-20-2025, 12:11 PM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: One commenter on X said he had a lot of penalties. Not sure the numbers
2023 - 11 in 953 total snaps.
2024 - 6 in 562 snaps.
RE: Lucas Patrick - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-20-2025
For reference PFF:
Player: Grade/Rank: Overall, Pass, Run; Pass Snaps/Sacks/Pressures. 135 Guards, 141 OTs.
Cappa: 50.5/110th, 39.7/107th, 54.9/103rd; 774/8/51
Volson: 59.3/78th, 49.4/96th, 65.6/52nd; 662/6/44
Ford (T): 50.6/112th, 50.2/110th, 49.8/121st; 466/5/37
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Patrick: 64.6/54th, 60.3/79th, 66.3/47th; 330/0/10
Risner: 67.0/42nd, 76.2/13th, 57.4/95th; 345/0/16
Scherff: 64.7/53rd, 74.5/19th, 57.3/96th; 625/0/17
Hernandez: 69.3/33rd, 74.2/22nd, 66.0/49th; 163/0/8
Jenkins: 75.4/18th, 75.8/15th, 74.3/20th, 495/4/17
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RE: Lucas Patrick - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-20-2025
For me, Cody Ford is a secondary backup. OL9 type. He is versatile and has a good attitude. Can play anywhere but C. Gives good effort. But is mediocre or worse everywhere. OT4/G4 for me. But a nice option on gameday because he can cover 4 spots.
Volson is LG only who is a pretty good/decent run blocker but very poor in pass pro.
Patrick is more versatile than Volson, a better pass blocker, and just as good a run blocker. In an ideal world, he'd be our primary G (and maybe C) backup. In the top 8 for sure. Ahead of Volson AND Ford.
But he is a low end starter. Which is better than what we have now, for sure. ATM, he starts at LG.
RE: Lucas Patrick - Mgbrown66 - 03-20-2025
The thing about Jenkins - the Bears had one of the WORST offensive lines in football last year. So bad they have thrown BIG resources in the offseason to bring in 3 new interior starters already. They saw Jenkins as part of the problem, not the solution.
Plus he's always injured with back issues.
RE: Lucas Patrick - SunsetBengal - 03-20-2025
(03-20-2025, 12:34 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: For reference PFF:
Player: Grade/Rank: Overall, Pass, Run; Pass Snaps/Sacks/Pressures. 135 Guards, 141 OTs.
Cappa: 50.5/110th, 39.7/107th, 54.9/103rd; 774/8/51
Volson: 59.3/78th, 49.4/96th, 65.6/52nd; 662/6/44
Ford (T): 50.6/112th, 50.2/110th, 49.8/121st; 466/5/37
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Patrick: 64.6/54th, 60.3/79th, 66.3/47th; 330/0/10
Risner: 67.0/42nd, 76.2/13th, 57.4/95th; 345/0/16
Scherff: 64.7/53rd, 74.5/19th, 57.3/96th; 625/0/17
Hernandez: 69.3/33rd, 74.2/22nd, 66.0/49th; 163/0/8
Jenkins: 75.4/18th, 75.8/15th, 74.3/20th, 495/4/17
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What snapshot of time are those numbers from? Volson played 985 snaps last year, Cappa 1133, Ford 689.