(03-25-2025, 07:48 PM)Housh Wrote: Got bored and watched a lot of tape on individual players and i could not help but recognize how shitty our D played for the majority of the plays. Guys being utterly dumbfounded by any trick play ever, guys not filling gaps on time, guys MISSING TACKLES, multiple guys on the same play hesitating to do ANYTHING. Guys not even in a position to lose a fight. Meaning guys on D weren’t even NEAR the ball so they couldn’t even get their ass beat. Like at least be Germaine Pratt and just get your ass beat in the hole. A lot of guys were so out of it they didn’t even propose a fight in the hole. They were just in a totally wrong gap then trying to group tackle 6 yards past the LOS.


Idk how it got this bad this quick. The front 7 was an absolute mess all year.

Golden needs to simply put get guys to at least be in a position to take an asswhoopin. If you get bodied out of a hole so be it but to not even be there to cause an issue is wild from NFL front 7 guys





Ngl idk how you fix this but Golden does and that’s why he gets the big bucks.


Quick note from the tapes i watched is we need a linebacker BAD. A lot of times we were kinda getting stalemates from the front 4 but idk what the hell
ADG, Njongmeta and Pratt were doing. There’d be a pulling guard and all 3 guys would be trying to contain the edge like dude someone has to fill gaps. Why would the RB bounce shit out if he has 6-7 yards right up the middle?

(03-25-2025, 09:29 PM)jj22 Wrote: He has a ton of work to do. He needs an influx of talent.

(03-26-2025, 10:10 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think it's talent, but also they play a very vanilla scheme on defense. Guys can't tackle. Guys take the wrong angles a lot. Guys get fooled on misdirection.

In the secondary, guys are running wide open on the other team.

It's a total mess at every level.

(03-26-2025, 12:23 PM)chrisball96 Wrote: Maybe I am baselessly optimistic, but so many of our secondary players were both young and hurt last year. Dax and DJ Turner specifically. If they get a year better and stay healthy, they could really help this defense improve, maybe not a ton, but enough to be serviceable against opposing QBs. And Al Goldin's scheme may help there as well. 

All you can really go off of is the facts: last year we were a bad defense, and we have (basically) the same players back again (barring something crazy) so I understand that doubt of their ability is totally legit because it's what they showed us on the field. 

And hoping that they can get better is just that: hope, but at least there is the potential for some improvement. 

(03-26-2025, 10:10 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think it's talent, but also they play a very vanilla scheme on defense. Guys can't tackle. Guys take the wrong angles a lot. Guys get fooled on misdirection.

In the secondary, guys are running wide open on the other team.

It's a total mess at every level.

(03-26-2025, 01:40 PM)basballguy Wrote: I see threads like this and i'm reminded that no matter how much I think otherwise, I'm just a casual fan.  Never would I get bored and just go watch tape of Bengals players.

(03-26-2025, 12:23 PM)chrisball96 Wrote: Maybe I am baselessly optimistic, but so many of our secondary players were both young and hurt last year. Dax and DJ Turner specifically. If they get a year better and stay healthy, they could really help this defense improve, maybe not a ton, but enough to be serviceable against opposing QBs. And Al Goldin's scheme may help there as well. 

All you can really go off of is the facts: last year we were a bad defense, and we have (basically) the same players back again (barring something crazy) so I understand that doubt of their ability is totally legit because it's what they showed us on the field. 

And hoping that they can get better is just that: hope, but at least there is the potential for some improvement. 

(03-27-2025, 08:14 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Sounds an awful lot like bad coaching, players playing poorly n an island and not as a team. There is no way that every player, or the majority, don’t know the simple fundamentals of how to play football.  These guys have been playing football their entire adolescent, and forward, life.

Put another way, at some point each of the guys on defense have been, or still are, better at their job… than almost all of us will ever be.  

It needs to be broken down, and coached up.  

Call me crazy, but I think they will respond to at least being a middle of the road D, that gives a lot of effort and makes an offense work hard.  They may be missing the elite playmakers on defense, but they can certainly remember assignments, tackle, angles, etc.

(03-26-2025, 05:31 PM)masonbengals fan Wrote: I'm anxious to see how it plays out in his 1st year. Really need to hit on a pick or two. Still waiting on more free agent news also.

(03-25-2025, 09:29 PM)jj22 Wrote: He has a ton of work to do. He needs an influx of talent.

(03-26-2025, 02:05 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Casual fans can only name like 5 players on the team. You're a member of a Bengals forum with a couple thousand posts. I think it's pretty safe to say nobody on this board falls into casual fan territory. 

(03-27-2025, 09:43 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: This is the biggest thing IMO. 

The talent just isn't there and the front office has done nothing about it.