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Worst drafting teams - puddycat - 04-04-2025

The Least Successful First-Round Teams in the NFL Draft the Last 10 Years

https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/the-least-successful-first-round-teams-in-the-nfl-draft-the-last-10-years.

#24. Bengals.  Amazing how this team's record tracks their ability to draft good (and bad) 1st round players.  The 2015-2019 run of Ogbuehi, Jackson, Ross, Price and Jonah.. uggh. No wonder Marvin got fired.


RE: Worst drafting teams - SunsetBengal - 04-04-2025

The Rams are a team that drafts well. I thought that when we snagged Zac off of McVey's staff that perhaps our draft quality might improve.


RE: Worst drafting teams - Bengalion - 04-04-2025

Great read. Thank you for sharing it. We have been terrible drafting in the trenches.


RE: Worst drafting teams - TheLeonardLeap - 04-04-2025

(Yesterday, 06:29 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The Rams are a team that drafts well. I thought that when we snagged Zac off of McVey's staff that perhaps our draft quality might improve.

Other teams have real scouting departments who do a lot of that work for them so HCs can primarily focus on being HCs.

The Rams have 13 people with the word "Scout" in their title plus another 7 people currently in their Scouting Apprenticeship program.

....also Zac was there for all of 2 years, 1 of them as Assistant WR Coach.


RE: Worst drafting teams - Frank Booth - 04-04-2025

(Yesterday, 07:10 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Other teams have real scouting departments who do a lot of that work for them so HCs can primarily focus on being HCs.

The Rams have 13 people with the word "Scout" in their title plus another 7 people currently in their Scouting Apprenticeship program.

....also Zac was there for all of 2 years, 1 of them as Assistant WR Coach.

please stop criticizing mike brown. He keeps football in cinncinati


RE: Worst drafting teams - jason - 04-04-2025

We're actually the best by WAR in the first round in the last 5 years though... Fwiw. 2020 and 2021 were basically all it took.


RE: Worst drafting teams - TheLeonardLeap - 04-04-2025

(Yesterday, 07:32 PM)jason Wrote: We're actually the best by WAR in the first round in the last 5 years though... Fwiw. 2020 and 2021 were basically all it took.

Last time I remember hearing NFL WAR mentioned was when it tried to say that Russell Wilson was the 2019 MVP even though Lamar had a 113 QB Rating, led the NFL in TD passes, and rushed for >1200 yards to make his team be 14-2 with the #1 scoring offense.

Then Lamar obviously won unanimously regardless and I legitimately don't think I had heard about WAR (in the context of football) since.

It's a hilariously useless stat. It tries to say that LaDanian Tomlinson's MVP season where he rushed for >1800 yards and caught >500 yards with 31 total TDs was worth LESS THAN 1/10th of the WAR of Matt Ryan's MVP season.


RE: Worst drafting teams - jason - 04-05-2025

(Yesterday, 07:56 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Last time I remember hearing NFL WAR mentioned was when it tried to say that Russell Wilson was the 2019 MVP even though Lamar had a 113 QB Rating, led the NFL in TD passes, and rushed for >1200 yards to make his team be 14-2 with the #1 scoring offense.

Then Lamar obviously won unanimously regardless and I legitimately don't think I had heard about WAR (in the context of football) since.

It's a hilariously useless stat. It tries to say that LaDanian Tomlinson's MVP season where he rushed for >1800 yards and caught >500 yards with 31 total TDs was worth LESS THAN 1/10th of the WAR of Matt Ryan's MVP season.

I really don't even understand how it works. I'd just read an article ranking the top 5 and bottom 5 in the first round the day before this thread was started.


RE: Worst drafting teams - TheLeonardLeap - 04-05-2025

(7 hours ago)jason Wrote: I really don't even understand how it works. I'd just read an article ranking the top 5 and bottom 5 in the first round the day before this thread was started.

It's just really really bad.

It said that us signing Mike Gesicki was a more valuable addition than the Ravens signing Derrick Henry and juuuuust shy of TWICE as valuable as the Eagles signing Saquon Barkley.

The 5 biggest "losers" in FA last season from a WAR perspective were...
Ravens
Commanders
Broncos
Vikings
Texans
...all 10+ win playoff teams.


RE: Worst drafting teams - reuben.ahmed - 04-05-2025

(Yesterday, 06:29 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The Rams are a team that drafts well. I thought that when we snagged Zac off of McVey's staff that perhaps our draft quality might improve.

I think the only thing we got was to suck enough to draft Joe Burrow...unless and until Zac wins a SB, I put all the success on Joe and all the failure on Zac, lol.