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Rank our Coaches (2025) - bfine32 - 06-23-2025
With all the position groups ranked, we’ll close out by ranking our Coaching Staff. Where we got Zac/Dan/Al.? The competition
ARZ: JONATHAN GANNON/DREW PETZIG/NICK RALLIS
ATL: RAHEEM MORRIS/ZAC ROBINSON/JEFF ULBRICH
BAL: JOHN HARBAUGH/TODD MONKEN/ZAC ORR
BUF: SEAN MCDERMOTT/JOE BRADY/BOBBY BABICH
CAR: DAVE CANALES/BRAD IDZIK/EJIRO EVARO
CHI: BEN JOHNSON/DECLAN DOYLE/DENNIS ALLEN
CLV: KEVIN STEFANSKI/TOMMY REES/JIM SCHWARTZ
DAL: BRIAN SCHOTTENHEIMER/KLAYTON ADAMS/MATT EBERFLUES
DEN: SEAN PAYTON/JOE LOMBARDI/VANCE JOSEPH
DET: DAN CAMPBELL/JOHN MORTON/KELVIN SHEPPERD
GBP: MATT LAFLUER/ADAM STENAVICH/JEFF HAFLEY
HOU: DEMECO RYANS/NICK CALEY/MATT BURKE
IND: SHANE STIECHEN/ JIM BOB COOTER/ LOU ANARUMO
JAX: LIAM COEN/GRANT UDINSKI/ANTHONY CAMPONILE
KCC: ANDY REID/MATT NAGY/STEVE SPAGNUOLO
LVR: PETE CARROLL/CHIP KELLY/PATRICK GRAHAM
LAC: JIM HARBAUGH/GREG ROMAN/JESSE MINTER
LAR: SEAN MCVAY/MIKE LAFLUER/CHRIS SHULA
MIA: MIKE MCDANIEL/FRANK SMITH/ANTHONY WEAVER
MIN: KEVIN OCONNELL/WES PHILLIPS/BRIAN FLORES
NEP: MIKE VRABEL/JOSH MCDANIELS/TERRELL WILLIAMS
NOS: KELLEN MOORE/DOUG NUSSMEIER/BRANDON STANLEY
NYG: BRIAN DABOLL/MIKE KAFKA/SHANE BOWEN
NYJ- AARON GLENN/TANNER ENGSTRAND/STEVE WILKES
PHI: NICK SIRIANNI/KEVIN PUTULLO/VIC FANGIO
PIT: OMAR EPPS/ARTHUR SMITH/TERYL AUSTIN
SFF: KYLE SHANNAHAN/KLAY KUBIAK/ROBER SAHLAH
SEA: MIKE MACDONALD/KLINT KUBIEK/ADEN DURDE
TBB: TODD BOWLES/JOSH GRIZZARD/TODD BOWLES
TEN: BRIAN CALLAHAN/NICK HOLZ/DENNARD WILSON
WAS: DAN QUINN/KLIFF KINGSBERRY/JOE WHITT
AVAILABLE: JON GRUDEN/MIKE MCCARTHY/BILL BELICHICK
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - rfaulk34 - 06-24-2025
(06-23-2025, 10:20 PM)bfine32 Wrote: With all the position groups ranked, we’ll close out by ranking our Coaching Staff. Where we got Zac/Dan/Al.? The competition
ARZ: JONATHAN GANNON/DREW PETZIG/NICK RALLIS
ATL: RAHEEM MORRIS/ZAC ROBINSON/JEFF ULBRICH
BAL: JOHN HARBAUGH/TODD MONKEN/ZAC ORR
BUF: SEAN MCDERMOTT/JOE BRADY/BOBBY BABICH
CAR: DAVE CANALES/BRAD IDZIK/EJIRO EVARO
CHI: BEN JOHNSON/DECLAN DOYLE/DENNIS ALLEN
CLV: KEVIN STEFANSKI/TOMMY REES/JIM SCHWARTZ
DAL: BRIAN SCHOTTENHEIMER/KLAYTON ADAMS/MATT EBERFLUES
DEN: SEAN PAYTON/JOE LOMBARDI/VANCE JOSEPH
DET: DAN CAMPBELL/JOHN MORTON/KELVIN SHEPPERD
GBP: MATT LAFLUER/ADAM STENAVICH/JEFF HAFLEY
HOU: DEMECO RYANS/NICK CALEY/MATT BURKE
IND: SHANE STIECHEN/ JIM BOB COOTER/ LOU ANARUMO
JAX: LIAM COEN/GRANT UDINSKI/ANTHONY CAMPONILE
KCC: ANDY REID/MATT NAGY/STEVE SPAGNUOLO
LVR: PETE CARROLL/CHIP KELLY/PATRICK GRAHAM
LAC: JIM HARBAUGH/GREG ROMAN/JESSE MINTER
LAR: SEAN MCVAY/MIKE LAFLUER/CHRIS SHULA
MIA: MIKE MCDANIEL/FRANK SMITH/ANTHONY WEAVER
MIN: KEVIN OCONNELL/WES PHILLIPS/BRIAN FLORES
NEP: MIKE VRABEL/JOSH MCDANIELS/TERRELL WILLIAMS
NOS: KELLEN MOORE/DOUG NUSSMEIER/BRANDON STANLEY
NYG: BRIAN DABOLL/MIKE KAFKA/SHANE BOWEN
NYJ- AARON GLENN/TANNER ENGSTRAND/STEVE WILKES
PHI: NICK SIRIANNI/KEVIN PUTULLO/VIC FANGIO
PIT: OMAR EPPS/ARTHUR SMITH/TERYL AUSTIN
SFF: KYLE SHANNAHAN/KLAY KUBIAK/ROBER SAHLAH
SEA: MIKE MACDONALD/KLINT KUBIEK/ADEN DURDE
TBB: TODD BOWLES/JOSH GRIZZARD/TODD BOWLES
TEN: BRIAN CALLAHAN/NICK HOLZ/DENNARD WILSON
WAS: DAN QUINN/KLIFF KINGSBERRY/JOE WHITT
AVAILABLE: JON GRUDEN/MIKE MCCARTHY/BILL BELICHICK
lol @ Omar Epps.
I was thinking about 6-8 but since 6 was the cutoff, i went group 2.
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - Synric - 06-24-2025
I made it to 16 without counting new head coaches.
Bengals have a first time NFL DC and a mediocre offensive scheme.
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - Truck_1_0_1_ - 06-24-2025
(06-24-2025, 12:06 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: lol @ Omar Epps.
I was thinking about 6-8 but since 6 was the cutoff, i went group 2.
I don't think I've called him anything other than Omar Epps for over a decade now lol
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - bfine32 - 06-24-2025
(06-24-2025, 08:44 AM)Synric Wrote: I made it to 16 without counting new head coaches.
Bengals have a first time NFL DC and a mediocre offensive scheme.
So a minimum of 16 returning staffs better than ours?
If a medicre Offensive Scheme gets you top 5 in total point Ima take it.
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-24-2025
Laughed at the Omar Epps reference myself lol
Too early to tell on our new OL coach and Defensive coaches. I think Zac is a great coach at times and a terrible coach at times so I
guess I would put him mid-tier.
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - Millhouse - 06-24-2025
Highest I can go on the pole is midway up.
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - ochocincos - 06-25-2025
Without seeing Golden actually run a defense in the NFL, I had to go 15-21.
Running a college defense and NFL defense are obviously going to be different.
And Golden took over an already-good college defense and made it just a bit better.
Prior to Golden coming in, ND finished their season with 19.7 Points Allowed Per Game, which ranked T14 in FBS.
ND defense rankings 2022-2024 were:
2022 - 23.0 PAPG (39th)
2023 - 15.9 (T7th with my Miami Redhawks
)2024 - 15.5 (T4th)
So yes, he did help improve the defense, but how effective will he be taking over a poor defense and making them actually good as opposed to taking what's already good and making them a bit better?
I'm not saying he can't, but we haven't seen him as a DC in the NFL yet, so there's some uncertainty, and I tend to be more skeptical with the unknown than optimistic.
If Golden really can turn this defense though into at least middle of the pack and the offense can perform like last year, this can be a Top 10 team.
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - Luvnit2 - 06-25-2025
I think our experienced head coach who also wear multiple hats in top 6 to 8 in the NFL. I know that many will strongly disagree. He is experienced, players love him and the big moments are not to big for him based on his playoff record.
I think the HC being the base foundation being strong supports the rest of the staff. The new coaches are an unknown, but I do like Golden and feel he will surprise. Our OL coach is an unknown to me. I think Simmons is a top 5 special teams coach.
Overall, I think they are around 10th best in the league on paper.
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - Soonerpeace - 06-25-2025
Ahead of our staff in no order…
Sean Payton
Nic Siriano
Andy Reid
Sean McVay
Mike Tomlin
Pete Carroll
John Harbaugh
Jim Harbaugh
Kyle Shanahan
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - bfine32 - 06-25-2025
(06-25-2025, 10:43 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Ahead of our staff in no order…
Sean Payton
Nic Siriano
Andy Reid
Sean McVay
Mike Tomlin
Pete Carroll
John Harbaugh
Jim Harbaugh
Kyle Shanahan
I could nitpick one of 2 who have never won anything or not done so in this decade; but a fair list.
I will say the AFC North is the division of great teams, but the AFC West is the division of Great Coaches
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - bengalfan74 - 06-25-2025
Right now I can't put them in the top tier. We'll see how this season moves them?
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - rfaulk34 - 06-25-2025
(06-25-2025, 10:38 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I think our experienced head coach who also wear multiple hats in top 6 to 8 in the NFL. I know that many will strongly disagree. He is experienced, players love him and the big moments are not to big for him based on his playoff record.
I think the HC being the base foundation being strong supports the rest of the staff. The new coaches are an unknown, but I do like Golden and feel he will surprise. Our OL coach is an unknown to me. I think Simmons is a top 5 special teams coach.
Overall, I think they are around 10th best in the league on paper.
Yep. He still has some in-game issues with play calling and needs to tweak the preseason games issue, but he's not credited enough with the culture he's built and how the players love to play for him. Playoff games def didn't look too big for him either.
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - rfaulk34 - 06-25-2025
(06-25-2025, 10:43 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Ahead of our staff in no order…
Sean Payton
Nic Siriano
Andy Reid
Sean McVay
Mike Tomlin
Pete Carroll
John Harbaugh
Jim Harbaugh
Kyle Shanahan
Personally, i'd call Payton and Tomlin highly overrated. That's why i put Zac in the 6-8 range. Overall, probably in the 10ish range, even with the unknown.
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 06-25-2025
(06-25-2025, 12:30 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Personally, i'd call Payton and Tomlin highly overrated. That's why i put Zac in the 6-8 range. Overall, probably in the 10ish range, even with the unknown.
Zac's strange. Early in the season he seems like he is out of his league coaching wise. Then late in the season and in the Playoffs his coaching
and his team as a whole is very good. Agree that Payton and Tomlin are highly overrated and Zac could pass them up if the Bengals make the
Playoffs this year and go on a roll again.
In the end, how you do in the Playoffs matters a ton as we all saw with Marv back in the day. Zac's teams are tough that time of year.
RE: Rank our Coaches (2025) - Soonerpeace - 06-26-2025
(06-25-2025, 12:30 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Personally, i'd call Payton and Tomlin highly overrated. That's why i put Zac in the 6-8 range. Overall, probably in the 10ish range, even with the unknown.
Well I only put Tomlin & Payton ahead because of records. Payton has a SB & .618 w/l record. Tomlin has SB no losing seasons and .630 w/l. I think Taylor has a great year and reestablishes himself as a top coach. But missing the playoffs the last 2 years are clouding him.