(01-12-2016, 01:08 AM)Millhouse Wrote: Oswald was a lackey tho  

(01-12-2016, 01:20 AM)Wyche Wrote: No conspiracy.....just clear bias.  Look at it this way:

Lewis has players getting rough = no control of his team.....and that may be true , but......

Tomlin has two COACHES and players involved in altercations and......crickets.

Understand?

(01-12-2016, 01:53 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: There is a lot of conspiracy I'm seeing on here, and it has nothing to do with people bemoaning a couple of bad calls.  This thread was mocking those that are throwing out the idea that the league itself actively played a part in this outcome.  That the refs had agenda.  That they "got what they wanted".  It's ridiculous. 

There is no way, in 2016, that NFL is going to purposely let one team get away with more hits to the head than another.  If you watch the games week in and week out the calls regarding these rules are hit and miss all the time.  Probably because it's a new rule and even more so because it's damn near impossible to be consistent with enforcement.

They missed the Shazier hit.  I think the Williams hit was bs.  But I can understand them being close calls.  I've seen similar plays go both ways.

As far as the Tomlin stuff, now you're getting into media coverage.  I was more mocking the idea of the actual league being Pro-Steelers.  Guess what, the media may more attention to the team that lost because of penalty.  Had we won I'm not sure the conversation would be the same.  Couple that with a Superbowl for Tomlin and you'll see less calls for his heads.  Not to mention the fact that Burfuct has built up quite a reputation.  Well deserved.  So yeah, now they're piling on.

And if we being totally honest, I think EVERYONE is being way too forgiving regarded the tunnel incident.  That, to me, was by far the worst action of the game.  I've never seen such a thing.  Almost two minutes left and 5 guys run into the tunnel and celebrate in a one point game?  Who does that?  What coach allows that?  Risk of delay of game, unsportsmanlike conduct.  Terrible sportsmanship.  Just downright stupid, stupid behavior. 

(01-12-2016, 01:37 AM)Fresno B Wrote: You want honesty?









Hill lost the game.

(01-12-2016, 02:34 AM)treee Wrote: Someone else on the board put it eloquently: this game was just too much for this officiating crew. Why the hell doesn't the National Football League, supposedly the image of professional football, have full time Refs putting upwards of 40+ hours a week year round so that they can be consistent in their ability to officiate the game? They want to be taken seriously by world at large but can't even manage that much? Give me a break.

(01-12-2016, 02:45 AM)barkerja Wrote: Refs have a pretty sweet deal in the NFL. They barely work 30 hours most weeks, and for most ... it's a side job that earns them on average $173,000 a year ($205,000 in 2019). Why would you want to change anything?

(01-12-2016, 02:34 AM)treee Wrote: Why the hell doesn't the National Football League, supposedly the image of professional football, have full time Refs putting upwards of 40+ hours a week year round so that they can be consistent in their ability to officiate the game?

(01-12-2016, 02:52 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I've never understood this.  Especially in recent years.  Perhaps years ago it made sense.  But with the money involved nowadays I can't see any good reason why they shouldn't have full time employees doing the games.  Hoculi is or was a practicing attorney, which just seems so strange to me.

And if I had my way I'd have a whole crew of officials upstairs with their eyes glued to monitors ruling on hits like these, and any and all turnovers.  None of that should be done of the field.  If done properly I don't think it would slow down the game in the least.

(01-12-2016, 02:52 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I've never understood this.  Especially in recent years.  Perhaps years ago it made sense.  But with the money involved nowadays I can't see any good reason why they shouldn't have full time employees doing the games.  Hoculi is or was a practicing attorney, which just seems so strange to me.

And if I had my way I'd have a whole crew of officials upstairs with their eyes glued to monitors ruling on hits like these, and any and all turnovers.  None of that should be done of the field.  If done properly I don't think it would slow down the game in the least.

(01-12-2016, 01:53 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: There is a lot of conspiracy I'm seeing on here, and it has nothing to do with people bemoaning a couple of bad calls.  This thread was mocking those that are throwing out the idea that the league itself actively played a part in this outcome.  That the refs had agenda.  That they "got what they wanted".  It's ridiculous. 

There is no way, in 2016, that NFL is going to purposely let one team get away with more hits to the head than another.  If you watch the games week in and week out the calls regarding these rules are hit and miss all the time.  Probably because it's a new rule and even more so because it's damn near impossible to be consistent with enforcement.

They missed the Shazier hit.  I think the Williams hit was bs.  But I can understand them being close calls.  I've seen similar plays go both ways.

As far as the Tomlin stuff, now you're getting into media coverage.  I was more mocking the idea of the actual league being Pro-Steelers.  Guess what, the media may more attention to the team that lost because of penalty.  Had we won I'm not sure the conversation would be the same.  Couple that with a Superbowl for Tomlin and you'll see less calls for his heads.  Not to mention the fact that Burfuct has built up quite a reputation.  Well deserved.  So yeah, now they're piling on.

And if we being totally honest, I think EVERYONE is being way too forgiving regarded the tunnel incident.  That, to me, was by far the worst action of the game.  I've never seen such a thing.  Almost two minutes left and 5 guys run into the tunnel and celebrate in a one point game?  Who does that?  What coach allows that?  Risk of delay of game, unsportsmanlike conduct.  Terrible sportsmanship.  Just downright stupid, stupid behavior. 

(01-12-2016, 02:52 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I've never understood this.  Especially in recent years.  Perhaps years ago it made sense.  But with the money involved nowadays I can't see any good reason why they shouldn't have full time employees doing the games.  Hoculi is or was a practicing attorney, which just seems so strange to me.

And if I had my way I'd have a whole crew of officials upstairs with their eyes glued to monitors ruling on hits like these, and any and all turnovers.  None of that should be done of the field.  If done properly I don't think it would slow down the game in the least.