(03-15-2016, 08:19 AM)Sabretooth Wrote: He could also be a Laverneus Cole in the making......

(03-15-2016, 08:19 AM)Sabretooth Wrote: He could also be a Laverneus Cole in the making......

(03-15-2016, 09:45 AM)Okeana Wrote: It's hard to take anything seriously when you misspell Roddy.  He's never shown to be close to Steve Smith in demeanor or skill set

(03-15-2016, 10:28 AM)lone bengal Wrote: I don't get what his past accomplishments have to do with type of player he is now. I'll agree he used to be a good player but now he's 34 and had a terrible year last season playing along side one of the best receivers in the game.    Steve Smith was still playing at a high level when the ravens signed him. I would be ok with maybe singing him cheap but my expectations would be low for him.  

(03-15-2016, 10:23 AM)Element Wrote: First, who tf is Roddie?

Second you posted his career accolades like that matters for this season, with that same mindset lets go sign TO or Jerry Rice.

(03-15-2016, 10:23 AM)Element Wrote: First, who tf is Roddie?

Second you posted his career accolades like that matters for this season, with that same mindset lets go sign TO or Jerry Rice.

(03-15-2016, 10:34 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Just for the sake of hypothetical conversation, and ignoring personality and all of that, while Rice's age of 53 is certainly too late, I honestly think that TO could stand a pretty good chance of putting up at least 2015 Sanu numbers (30 catches, 400 yards) coming off his couch right now.

He didn't retire because of performance, he retired because of personality and burning bridges. Don't forget he put up 72 / 983 / 9 (in 14 games) in 2010 with the Bengals as his last year in the NFL. He was 37 then. Think about that, at the age of 37 in a non-full season, he put up a season that would be Marvin Jones' career year. Don't think he could pull off a 2002 Jerry Rice where he put up 1200 yards at the age of 40, but I think TO could get you at least Sanu production.

(03-15-2016, 11:04 AM)Au165 Wrote: Old washed up, and another example of naming people we have heard of rather than actual players who can help.

(03-15-2016, 11:12 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: So was Terrance Newman... 5 years later he is still starting at cb for min.

Just because a guy isn't a superstar doesn't mean he can't help.  I don't care if it's roddy white or mike Wallace.  We need to replace two receivers production.  I truly believe toddy white could replace sanu for at least a year.  We are not asking everyone to be superstars. 

I said it before, jerricho cotchery is not a great wide receiver.  But he played a valuable part for the panthers.  Owen Daniels is also probably old and washed up in your mind but he also played a valuable part for the Broncos.  

Keep an open mind.

(03-15-2016, 09:51 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Seriously? Go do some research.... I went ahead and did it for you.  Pretty close in career accolades.  Also for a 5 year stretch roddy white was arguable the best WR in the nfl. Has he lost a step?  Sure- but don't say he  has never been close to Steve smiths skill set.  That's laughable.

4× Pro Bowl (2008–2011)
First-team All-Pro (2010)
NFC Receiving Yards Leader (2010)
NFL Receptions Leader (2010)
NFL Alumni Wide Receiver of the Year (2010)
NFC Offensive Player of the Month (October 2010)
Falcons playoff record for receptions in a game (11)
Atlanta Falcons all-time career leader (Receptions, Receiving Yards, Receiving Touchdowns)
Atlanta Falcons Touchdowns leader (63)

5× Pro Bowl (2001, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2011)
2× First-team All-Pro (2001, 2005)
Second-team All-Pro (2008)
NFC champion (2003)
NFL Receiving Yards Leader (2005)
NFL Receiving Touchdowns Leader (2005)
NFL Receptions Leader (2005)
NFL Alumni Wide Receiver of the Year (2005)
AP NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2005)
PFWA NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2005)
Carolina Panthers all-time leader in receptions, receiving yards, receiving touchdowns, punt return yards and punt return touchdowns
NFC Offensive Player of the Month (October 2005)

(03-15-2016, 01:09 PM)Okeana Wrote: Lol for all your typing and fandom hasn't addressed what I said.  A skill set isn't stats or results it the style and attitude a receiver plays with and these two players have vastly different skill sets.  If you want a veteran receiver than pick up a guy like Boldin who has proven to be productive and offers something to a team.  I compare White to Chad Johnson in terms of his value late in his career and maybe he can prove me wrong, but I want us to sign talent not names.

(03-15-2016, 11:12 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: So was Terrance Newman... 5 years later he is still starting at cb for min.

Just because a guy isn't a superstar doesn't mean he can't help.  I don't care if it's roddy white or mike Wallace.  We need to replace two receivers production.  I truly believe toddy white could replace sanu for at least a year.  We are not asking everyone to be superstars. 

I said it before, jerricho cotchery is not a great wide receiver.  But he played a valuable part for the panthers.  Owen Daniels is also probably old and washed up in your mind but he also played a valuable part for the Broncos.  

Keep an open mind.

(03-15-2016, 01:20 PM)Okeana Wrote: two completely different positions and circumstances.  Your not discussing why White would be different in this circumstance just listing high profile names on winning teams.  Cotchery hasn't had any huge fall off and accepted his role on teams long ago.  Likewise Owen Daniels is putting up similar production as he has in the past and this only accounts for their receiveing stats.  Intangible things like Run blocking also comes into play.  While White may be able to put up similar numbers as sanu as a third receiver does he offer the same option plays as Sanu ?  Who is the better run blocker in our scheme and what effect will switching play books and quarterbacks have on a veteran who declined in a system he was comfortable with.  Your not thinking logically your only pandering to your fandom.

How many of the other free agent and draft receivers have you researched to determine that White is the best option for the team or could it be that you simply know his name.

(03-15-2016, 01:49 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Clearly you don't read.  I said I don't care if it's roddy white or mike wallace.  I don't care who the bengals pick but we have a WR void. 


They could sign whomever they think will fill the need best.  With that said, white could easily replace sanu production. 

White, colston, Andre Johnson, Kerley, boldin... All similar receivers at route running at this point,  slot possession guys.  It doesn't matter to me.  But white was the topic here because of the OP.  

Who isn't washed up?  Since you seem to know all.  

(03-15-2016, 09:51 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Seriously? Go do some research.... I went ahead and did it for you.  Pretty close in career accolades.  Also for a 5 year stretch roddy white was arguable the best WR in the nfl. Has he lost a step?  Sure- but don't say he  has never been close to Steve smiths skill set.  That's laughable.

4× Pro Bowl (2008–2011)
First-team All-Pro (2010)
NFC Receiving Yards Leader (2010)
NFL Receptions Leader (2010)
NFL Alumni Wide Receiver of the Year (2010)
NFC Offensive Player of the Month (October 2010)
Falcons playoff record for receptions in a game (11)
Atlanta Falcons all-time career leader (Receptions, Receiving Yards, Receiving Touchdowns)
Atlanta Falcons Touchdowns leader (63)

5× Pro Bowl (2001, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2011)
2× First-team All-Pro (2001, 2005)
Second-team All-Pro (2008)
NFC champion (2003)
NFL Receiving Yards Leader (2005)
NFL Receiving Touchdowns Leader (2005)
NFL Receptions Leader (2005)
NFL Alumni Wide Receiver of the Year (2005)
AP NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2005)
PFWA NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2005)
Carolina Panthers all-time leader in receptions, receiving yards, receiving touchdowns, punt return yards and punt return touchdowns
NFC Offensive Player of the Month (October 2005)