(10-20-2016, 07:43 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: This is an outstanding thread for many reasons.  First of all Andy Dalton has won at least one game, the first one against the Jets, pretty much all on his own.  Cincinnati fans have been waiting for Andy to be able to put the entire offense on his shoulders and lead them to a win and he's proven he can do it.  Even against New England he played extremely well, shredding Matt Patricia's pass defense for most of the game.  If I were Marvin -- and I must give Wyche's Warrior credit for this idea -- I would let Andy call the offensive plays while Ken Zampese evaluates the opposing defense from the sideline.  Andy nearly always calls the right audible at the line so I think he should be given the latitude to call all the plays, period.  Ken Zampese might be a good quarterback coach but he's no Hue Jackson -- or even Jay Gruden -- when it comes to being an offensive coordinator.

Anyone notice Andy's mechanics lately?  I have -- and they're amazing.  Passes of any length are on target and perfectly timed; all the receivers have to do is put their hands out and grab!

(10-20-2016, 10:21 AM)bengals67 Wrote: we have a top ten QB. Andy is playing at a very high level and if we was not doing so we would be at 1-5 or even 0-6.

Problem with O is not OC or lack of time with Wrs or no Eifert. It is the awful blocking by the O line both on running plays and pass pro.

Whit is one of my favorite Bengals ever but time is catching up with him . Bolling has been above average. The other three , including Zeitler have been below average or just plain awful in the case of Bodine and Og.

Og is a rookie and he may just need more time. I do not know what has happened to Zeitler.

Beating a dead horse but it is sheer stupidity that we have not found/drafted or signed a quality center for over 10 years.

(10-20-2016, 01:38 PM)brian5562 Wrote: He looks more and more like Drew Brees every week. His command of the offense and his understanding of defenses is getting to that level. If he has time to throw he can carve defenses up. Give him a healthy 85 and he will be that much better because he will have his move the chains guy.

He is why if the defense can get back to playing better and the oline can improve this team can be scary. I know big if's right now but 14 gives me hope.

(10-20-2016, 01:38 PM)brian5562 Wrote: He looks more and more like Drew Brees every week. His command of the offense and his understanding of defenses is getting to that level. If he has time to throw he can carve defenses up. Give him a healthy 85 and he will be that much better because he will have his move the chains guy.

He is why if the defense can get back to playing better and the oline can improve this team can be scary. I know big if's right now but 14 gives me hope.

(10-20-2016, 03:36 AM)Wyche Wrote: I've said it a few times.....I think the adversity of 2014 made him a better player.  So....yeah....this year is probably making him even better.

YES! He will be super, fantastic, outstanding, and unmatched after playing with this O-line and OC.

(10-20-2016, 03:58 PM)Derrick Wrote: YES! He will be super, fantastic, outstanding, and unmatched after playing with this O-line and OC.

(10-21-2016, 01:22 AM)TKUHL Wrote: I meant mentally also. A season and line like this can make a QB like David Carr or Drew Brees, Im glad he's looking Breezy.

(10-20-2016, 05:12 AM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Dalton has been very good this season. In the first two weeks, the Bengals led the league in drops and yet Dalton was still doing good. He has a 3:1 TD to INT ratio. Completing 67% of his throws, which is the highest of his career. He is carrying this offense in every way. Whether calling out different plays to literally carrying the team on his back. Heck, the team looks so much better when he's out there doing no huddle and making the calls himself.

And people forget, Dalton didn't have as much time with LaFell. Dalton has been one of our best players and arguably the best player on this team right now. The biggest issue is blocking and play calling. Too many times you see Dalton have to move out of the pocket and too many times you see receivers run the same route. Heck. There's been numerous times where it takes the Bengals forever to throw a pass more than 5 yards. There's a lot of pre-determined and check down throws early on. Which isn't a bad thing, but you can tell play calling is holding this team back.