(12-19-2016, 09:44 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: ...... it's reached a point where even Marv homers are saying it's time. Have some pride Marv.

(12-19-2016, 10:46 PM)Wyche Wrote: Not all of them!  

(12-19-2016, 09:44 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: If Marv has any dignity and isn't in it just for the money and status, then he would absolutely step down.

(12-19-2016, 11:43 PM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote: We need a online petition lol it might not do anything,but if he hears about it, it might send him a message

(12-19-2016, 11:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Unique, this thread is.

(12-19-2016, 11:56 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: The only hope we've got is for Marvin to say I've had enough. Or for Mike to offer a promotion to whatever title in the F.O.

MB will not fire him - period. If Marvin decides to continue on as HC and goes 2-14 for the next 3 seasons he'll still be here.

Sad but true

(12-19-2016, 09:33 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I refer to coach Lewis as Marvin Brown in the thread title, because he's been around so long, it's like he's been inducted into the family.  What I mean by "part of the family", is that he is so entrenched into the workings of the team, that he has reached "untouchable" status, as in immunity from being fired.

So, with that in mind, the best we can possibly hope for is that he can see the writing on the wall, and decide for himself that his time has passed, and it is indeed time to retire as HC of the Bengals.  In Lewis' 14 seasons with the Bengals, there has been progress, the team has risen from the depths of disparity.  However, everything wrong with the Marvin Lewis coached teams, reared it's ugly head, for the second time in a calendar year this Sunday.  To recap the scene:  A seemingly well prepared Bengals team came out and dominated a quality team for half the game.  After the break, crickets...   The team forgot how to execute on offense, got frustrated on defense, committed senseless penalties, and in general terms, came unglued.

This is not the 1st time this year, or in the past couple years, or even in the past 10 seasons that this has happened.  Over the span of the past 14 years, only one important component remains in tact, Marvin Lewis.

Coach, thanks for the memories!  Now, please step down.

(12-20-2016, 10:11 AM)Crowe Wrote: Marvin and Mike both need to step down, they are doing more to hinder this team than to help it.

(12-20-2016, 10:15 AM)yellowxdiscipline Wrote: Mike will continue to have an influence over this team until he's six feet deep. Once you have power over something its hard to give it up.

(12-20-2016, 10:25 AM)Crowe Wrote: I agree. I think he knows he can do what he wants, it's just unfortunate for us fans that we can't get an owner or a coach that seems to really care about making winning a priority.

(12-20-2016, 11:57 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I don't think that the problem with Marvin is a lack of desire to win, but too much of a desire to win his way.  He is just too nice of a guy to step on the throat, when his team has an opponent down.  His philosophy seems to be to get up on an opponent in the 1st half, and just hope to bore them into submission in the 2nd half.

We've seen it all, too many times.  Championship coaches have no problem with burying an opponent, embarrassing them, making them fearful to face their team in the future.  Not Marvin, he wants to win with class, offer the foe dignity in defeat..

(12-20-2016, 12:07 PM)Wyche Wrote: I had the 30 for 30 "Catholics vs. Convicts" on my DVR, so I watched it last night, and on it, Jimmy Johnson brought up a pretty valid point.  Being a Noles fan, I obviously have no love for ANYTHING 'canes, but he was talking about why he never took the foot off the pedal when he got a big lead.  It seems he had lost a couple of big leads early on while he was at Miami, and he was always fearful of letting his opponent back in the game as a result.  I just always assumed him to be a prick, but that was some interesting insight into his philosophy, albeit 30 years later.