2015 Playoff Implications

[West Union KennyG]

Ghostkowski - 54 yard FG - Patriots win!

[BritishBengal]

Eugh effin Pats.

[phil413]

dang thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis close

[BritishBengal]

Terrible playcalling for the Giants at the Patriots goaline, should have eaten up more time and made it far harder for the Pats.

[phil413]

(11-15-2015, 09:49 PM)phil413 Wrote: dang thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis close
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At least Denver lost.  You know what, lets go up to NE and break some hearts if we have to!!!

[Thefinalcut813]

Hate is a strong word. I HATE the Patriots!

[Gamma Ray Tan]

Oh well ..... Pats don't look that good. They've lost some steam. I think the Bengals could go up there and take them. Who Dey!

[West Union KennyG]

(11-15-2015, 09:54 PM)Gamma Ray Tan Wrote: Oh well ..... Pats don't look that good. They've lost some steam. I think the Bengals could go up there and take them. Who Dey!

This... if anything, Patriots looked vulnerable.  Bengals could beat them.  

[BobJones4980]

(11-15-2015, 09:54 PM)Gamma Ray Tan Wrote: Oh well ..... Pats don't look that good. They've lost some steam. I think the Bengals could go up there and take them. Who Dey!

(11-15-2015, 11:31 PM)West Union KennyG Wrote: This... if anything, Patriots looked vulnerable.  Bengals could beat them.  

They squeaked out a win but it was a bad night for the Patriots, Eldelman has a broken foot and the Pats have 1 weapon on the offense with Gronk.

This was a costly game for them that could bring them down a notch. 

Also : lol Broncos

[West Union KennyG]

(11-15-2015, 01:44 AM)West Union KennyG Wrote: Updated W/ Today's Results:

AFC North Division  W  L  Division  Conference  Games Back  Games Left To Play
1. Cincinnati           8   0  3-0        7-0              X                 8
2. Pittsburgh          6   4  1-2        3-4              3.5               6
3. Baltimore           2   7  1-2        2-5              6.5               7
4. Cleveland           2   8  1-2        2-6              7                 6

AFC Contenders
1. New England      9   0   3-0       6-0         
2. Cincinnati           8   0   3-0      7-0
3. Denver               7   2   2-1      4-2
4. Indianapolis        4   5   3-0      4-3

5. Pittsburgh          6   4    1-2      3-4
6. Buffalo               5   4   3-1       5-3
7. N.Y. Jets            5   4   1-2       4-3

Week 10 Playoff Implications:

1. Cincinnati v. Houston
Crucial Prime Time Home Game to stay undefeated (Setting new Bengals win streak record to 9 games).  Other important reasons to win this game: It's a Conference game and a common opponent with New England we are competing for #1 Conference Seed (1st Round Bye and Home Field).  Cincinnati and New England both play: Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Houston, & Denver.  Who-Dey!

The disturbing parts about today:
1) New England pulled off that win against Giants - but definitely looked vulnerable (and lost Edelman w/ broken bone in his foot).
2) Pittsburgh won.  They now lead the field of wildcard teams.  But as long as we win tomorrow, they remain 3.5 games back of AFC North with 6 games left to play.
3) New England's SOS got stronger & Cincinnati's weaker.  NE still has a hold on the SOS tie breaker.

The Good About Today:
1) Denver lost for the 2nd week in a row!  They are now 7-2; w/ a 4-2 conference record.  And Denver lost to the Chiefs (who Bengals beat by two scores) and looked really bad. Those who had us losing to Denver later may want to rethink that one.
2) Cleveland was officially & mathematically eliminated from AFC North contention.
3) If Bengals win tomorrow, Ravens are officially & mathematically eliminated from AFC North contention (leaving Pittsburgh as only team to have a shot at us).
4) The Jungle will be rocking on Monday Night Football - WHO-DEY!

[wolfkaosaun]

(11-15-2015, 11:31 PM)West Union KennyG Wrote: This... if anything, Patriots looked vulnerable.  Bengals could beat them.  

Giants defense has Brady's number. Pressure him early and often, and he will make some mistakes. Won't be many, but will be crucial.

Pats pass defense still doesn't scare me. Linebackers aren't that great in coverage. Butler kept OBJ in check but rest of that secondary looked lost and was beat early and often.

So pass rush, using the seams, and quick receivers seems the best way to beat the Pats. Thankfully, the Bengals have all 3.

[Joelist]

Plus the Pats were saved by the NFL again being wildly inconsistent on what a catch is. In any normal reality Odell Beckham's TD counts, especially because there was no "interference" with his catch until his third step.

[hitchopottimus]

I think the Ravens have one more week to go before they're mathematically eliminated. even if the Bengals win this week. (Although for all practical purposes they are.) They can't catch Cincinnati by themselves, for reasons already stated, but if they win out, Cincinnatil loses out, and Pittsburgh plays their way into a three way tie, then in the three way tiebreak they would be 3-1 in the three team head-to-head, while Pittsburgh would be 2-2, as would the Bengals. Looking at catching Cincinnati in a two way tie they would be eliminated, but the prospect of a three way tie says they have one more week to suffer with a tiny shred of mathematical hope.

[West Union KennyG]

(11-16-2015, 09:37 AM)hitchopottimus Wrote: I think the Ravens have one more week to go before they're mathematically eliminated. even if the Bengals win this week. (Although for all practical purposes they are.) They can't catch Cincinnati by themselves, for reasons already stated, but if they win out, Cincinnatil loses out, and Pittsburgh plays their way into a three way tie, then in the three way tiebreak they would be 3-1 in the three team head-to-head, while Pittsburgh would be 2-2, as would the Bengals. Looking at catching Cincinnati in a two way tie they would be eliminated, but the prospect of a three way tie says they have one more week to suffer with a tiny shred of mathematical hope.

Good catch - I hadn't considered a 3 way tie but was basing it entirely on the one-to-one match-up.  

[XenoMorph]

So win tonight and the Browns are eliminated from Division contenders and the Ravens could be out before we play the Cardinals

Shoudlnt we current hold the tie breaker on the Pats with a better divisional record? (or since both are 100% W ratio does it skip to the next one?)

[Earendil]

(11-16-2015, 02:58 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: So win tonight and the Browns are eliminated from Division contenders and the Ravens could be out before we play the Cardinals

Shoudlnt we current hold the tie breaker on the Pats with a better divisional record? (or since both are 100% W ratio does it skip to the next one?)

I could be wrong, but I believe divisional record only matters inside the division. So the Bengals division record would be irrelevant in seedings. Now, conference record on the other hand...

[yellowxdiscipline]

Can Brock keep the Broncos afloat? Manning needs to call it a career.

[XenoMorph]

(11-16-2015, 06:07 PM)Earendil Wrote: I could be wrong, but I believe divisional record only matters inside the division. So the Bengals division record would be irrelevant in seedings. Now, conference record on the other hand...

i ment conference.

[West Union KennyG]

(11-16-2015, 06:07 PM)Earendil Wrote: I could be wrong, but I believe divisional record only matters inside the division.  So the Bengals division record would be irrelevant in seedings.  Now, conference record on the other hand...

That is correct. 

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

Quote:NFL Tiebreaking Procedures

The six postseason participants from each conference are seeded as follows:

1. The division champion with the best record.
2. The division champion with the second-best record.
3. The division champion with the third-best record.
4. The division champion with the fourth-best record.
5. The Wild Card club with the best record.
6. The Wild Card club with the second-best record.
   

The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.
NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.
TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.
Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
    

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
    

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
   

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.
    

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
    

When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.
OTHER TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURES

1. Only one club advances to the playoffs in any tie-breaking step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the applicable division or Wild Card tie-breakers. As an example, if two clubs remain tied in any tie-breaker step after all other clubs have been eliminated, the procedure reverts to Step 1 of the two-club format to determine the winner. When one club wins the tiebreaker, all other clubs revert to Step 1 of the applicable two-club or three-club format.
2. In comparing records against common opponents among tied teams, the best won-lost-tied percentage is the deciding factor, since teams may have played an unequal number of games.
3. To determine home-field priority among division-titlists, apply Wild Card tie-breakers.
4. To determine home-field priority for Wild Card qualifiers, apply division tie-breakers (if teams are from the same division) or Wild Card tiebreakers (if teams are from different divisions).
5. To determine the best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed, add a team's position in the two categories, and the lowest score wins. For example, if Team A is first in points scored and second in points allowed, its combined ranking is "3." If Team B is third in points scored and first in points allowed, its combined ranking is "4." Team A then wins the tiebreaker. If two teams are tied for a position, both teams are awarded the ranking as if they held it solely. For example, if Team A and Team B are tied for first in points scored, each team is assigned a ranking of "1" in that category, and if Team C is third, its ranking will still be "3."
   

[Earendil]

(11-16-2015, 06:29 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: i ment conference.

Sure you did...

I figured that's what you meant, but commented just in case.