Marvel/DC movies

[*bfine32*]

Superhero movies I've liked:

Black Panther
Doctor Strange
Deadpool
Kick Ass
Suicide Squad
Guardians of the Galaxy

IDK if those are Marvel/ DC/ or other

[XenoMorph]

(12-25-2021, 09:03 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Superhero movies I've liked:

Black Panther
Doctor Strange
Deadpool
Kick Ass
Suicide Squad
Guardians of the Galaxy

IDK if those are Marvel/ DC/ or other

really liked Kick Ass....  

I prefer my Hero Movies to not have any superpowers they are much better that way imo

[samhain]

(12-17-2021, 12:47 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Wikipedia keeps a list of each movie these companies make, and dating back to 2000, they've made a whopping 79 movies combined. Almost 4 comic book movies per year.

Anyone else as sick of it as I am?

I feel like I should be, but I'm not.  Someone at Marvel or Disney made a deal with the devil that has allowed them to create a basically infallible entertainment product.  They seem to just time everything right, and they still have a lot of untapped content to utilize for a very long time.  Nobody in their right month thought Thor, Captain America, or Iron man were viable franchise subjects back in 2000, yet here we are.

I'm not going to lie, I pretty much shamelessly watch everything they put out there, and I'm rarely disappointed.

Star Wars, on the other hand has lost all appeal to me.  

[samhain]

(12-23-2021, 11:00 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote:

I'm not a fan of formulaic things, on the whole; film, music, etc., I just don't care for any of it and Scorsese is the king of formulaic.

He also ripped off Infernal Affairs (the Departed) and will never own up to it, so he can go kick rocks.

It's why I can appreciate Silence; apart from it dripping with Catholicism and Japan (2 of my favourite things lol), he didn't cast/use any family or rehash actors on the project, he didn't go through his normal use of contemporary music and he actually did a film not based in modern times.

He hit it out of the park. I can't call him a, "bad," director as a result, because he did something out of his comfort zone and it is probably his best film (from a quality/critical standpoint).

Just formulaic to death and I can't stand it lol

In the Catholic vein, did you happen to watch Midnight Mass on Netflix?  

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(12-28-2021, 10:44 PM)samhain Wrote: In the Catholic vein, did you happen to watch Midnight Mass on Netflix?  

I have not, sadly.

Oh, it's a show! I don't watch much in the vein of shows, nowadays; not-enough time and I'm super plugged-in to sports nowadays, I can't juggle my time .

Interesting premise though! However the premise and setting sound VERY similar to another Netflix (movie), Apostle, from 2018. Directed by Gareth Evans (the Raid and the Raid 2), which I REALLY liked a lot, it too did the whole, "religious people on an isolated island," but was set in the 1800s.

[samhain]

(12-28-2021, 10:55 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I have not, sadly.

Oh, it's a show! I don't watch much in the vein of shows, nowadays; not-enough time and I'm super plugged-in to sports nowadays, I can't juggle my time .

Interesting premise though! However the premise and setting sound VERY similar to another Netflix (movie), Apostle, from 2018. Directed by Gareth Evans (the Raid and the Raid 2), which I REALLY liked a lot, it too did the whole, "religious people on an isolated island," but was set in the 1800s.

It's a solid watch.  Catholic themes are really heavy in it.  Worth a watch if you ever get time.

[Benton]

(12-28-2021, 10:55 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I have not, sadly.

Oh, it's a show! I don't watch much in the vein of shows, nowadays; not-enough time and I'm super plugged-in to sports nowadays, I can't juggle my time .

Interesting premise though! However the premise and setting sound VERY similar to another Netflix (movie), Apostle, from 2018. Directed by Gareth Evans (the Raid and the Raid 2), which I REALLY liked a lot, it too did the whole, "religious people on an isolated island," but was set in the 1800s.

Watch the first ten minutes and last ten minutes of every episode. 

It's very good, but should have been, at most, 2 hours. There's about 74 hours of filler.

[fredtoast]

(12-20-2021, 04:13 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: (and I despise Scorsese, as every film is a borderline rehash of the one that came before it),

Yeah, right.  "Shutter Island", "Raging Bull", "King of Comedy", "The Aviator", "Taxi Driver", "The Age of Innocence", and "Hugo" are all just alike.


Seriously, Truck, I am a little embarrassed for you.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(12-30-2021, 02:57 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Yeah, right.  "Shutter Island", "Raging Bull", "King of Comedy", "The Aviator", "Taxi Driver", "The Age of Innocence", and "Hugo" are all just alike.


Seriously, Truck, I am a little embarrassed for you.

Quote:Of course, I am speaking with a degree of generalizing

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Marvel-DC-movies?pid=1123200#pid1123200

Seriously, Fred, I never expected you to take a shot outside of football or politics, but, of course, the lawyer can't refrain from passing judgment...

He branched-out significantly in the 2000s, but pre-2000 was almost always a film about:

- Italian Americans
- Gangsters
- Robert DeNiro
- Joe Pesci
- etc.

Take Besson, for instance; while I would not put him on the same level as Scorsese (though I contend that Leon is better than GF any day of the week) in terms of whole body of work, outside of Jean Reno and his mistresses/wives he had at specific times, EVERY film he did had nothing to with the other, EVERY film had a different main setting (save for Nikita and Subway, which shared Paris as the main backdrop) and he explored the non-writing side of filmmaking, in terms of better filming/action sequences, setpieces, technical work, etc.

I'm not shitting on Scorsese, but if one cannot admit that his pre-millennium work was a great deal formulaic in various ways, then the fanboy in you is seriously clouded.

I would suggest reading some of Bondenella's works and taking a deeper dive into Italian and Italian/American cinema, as I have studied Scorsese on a University, critical level, in a handful of classes.

I'm not blowing smoke out of my ass, like many do.

[fredtoast]

(12-30-2021, 04:01 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Marvel-DC-movies?pid=1123200#pid1123200

Seriously, Fred, I never expected you to take a shot outside of football or politics, but, of course, the lawyer can't refrain from passing judgment...

He branched-out significantly in the 2000s, but pre-2000 was almost always a film about:

- Italian Americans
- Gangsters
- Robert DeNiro
- Joe Pesci
- etc.

Take Besson, for instance; while I would not put him on the same level as Scorsese (though I contend that Leon is better than GF any day of the week) in terms of whole body of work, outside of Jean Reno and his mistresses/wives he had at specific times, EVERY film he did had nothing to with the other, EVERY film had a different main setting (save for Nikita and Subway, which shared Paris as the main backdrop) and he explored the non-writing side of filmmaking, in terms of better filming/action sequences, setpieces, technical work, etc.

I'm not shitting on Scorsese, but if one cannot admit that his pre-millennium work was a great deal formulaic in various ways, then the fanboy in you is seriously clouded.

I would suggest reading some of Bondenella's works and taking a deeper dive into Italian and Italian/American cinema, as I have studied Scorsese on a University, critical level, in a handful of classes.

I'm not blowing smoke out of my ass, like many do.

Sorry Truck.

I actually try not to get too hot in the entertainment section because it is more about individual taste.  Like the uniform threads in Jungle Noise.

But I am big Scorsese fan so I was a little too sensitive.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(12-31-2021, 01:37 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Sorry Truck.

I actually try not to get too hot in the entertainment section because it is more about individual taste.  Like the uniform threads in Jungle Noise.

But I am big Scorsese fan so I was a little too sensitive.

It's all good

As you said, we all have our tastes, but I feel I am one of the very few that CAN separate taste from what I think is best; my 3 favourite films are the Kids Are Alright, Mortal Kombat: Annihilation and Goldeneye.

Neither of those films will be seen on any, "best," lists (save for Goldeneye, which would probably be on a, "best Bond Film," list and TKAA might be on a, "best Musician Film," list) and MK:A has been deemed as the worst film of the 90s (of which is absolutely isn't) by countless outlets and critics. And hell, I don't even deem Goldeneye to be the best Bond film (2nd, after Casino Royale, both directed by Martin Campbell), so even if I don't like Scorsese at all and deem him to be fairly overrated, I am not denying that he is a great director and he has helped mould cinema into what it is today.

Just as an idea of how I trend in film taste (note; I don't trend in ANY direction, lol), my 10 favourite films are:

10. Hard Boiled
9. The Crow
8. The Raid 2
7. Independence Day
6. The Dirty Dozen
5. The Blues Brothers
4. The Fifth Element
3. Goldeneye
2. Mortal Kombat: Annihilation
1. The Kids Are Alright

[Nicomo Cosca]

(12-30-2021, 04:01 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: He branched-out significantly in the 2000s, but pre-2000 was almost always a film about:

- Italian Americans
- Gangsters
- Robert DeNiro
- Joe Pesci
- etc.

That’s just simply not true though.


Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore - 1974
After Hours - 1985
The Color of Money - 1986
The Last Temptation of Christ - 1988
The Age of Innocence - 1993
Kundun - 1997
Bringing Out the Dead - 1999


Like I said earlier in the thread, he has a much more diverse filmography than he gets credit for. None of those films are related to anything you listed.

[Munich Bengals]

I've seen almost all of them and I’m loving it. I read all those comics when I was a little boy and they were amazing. Been a big fan of the Avengers especially.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(12-31-2021, 12:14 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: That’s just simply not true though.


Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore - 1974
After Hours - 1985
The Color of Money - 1986
The Last Temptation of Christ - 1988
The Age of Innocence - 1993
Kundun - 1997
Bringing Out the Dead - 1999


Like I said earlier in the thread, he has a much more diverse filmography than he gets credit for. None of those films are related to anything you listed.

I mean, sure, but I would've increased the list if we were to do a really deep dive into the constant themes:

ADLHA has Keitel, who has worked with Scorsese a ton, as well as Jodie Foster.
LToC is about Catholicism, so that's a pretty big Italian connection there.
Age of Innocence is set in New York and has Daniel Day Lewis (who has NEVER worked with the same director more than once, outside of Jim Sheridan).
After Hours takes place in New York.
Color of Money is full of Italian-American actors/actresses.
Bringing Out the Dead takes place in New York, is full of Italian-American actors/actresses and stars Nick Cage, who is an incredibly-prominent Italian in American cinema.

Kundun is absolutely one that is completely non-formulaic/not-rehashed of themes/people of his works and is very-similar to Silence in that regard.

An American film he did that is completely unlike the others, would be Boxcar Bertha, one of his earliest and completely different in terms of themes and talent used. Not a very well-received film though lol

And just looking at his, "Trademarks," on IMDB, he has 26: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000217/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark

For comparison's sake:

Coppola has 7 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000338/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark
Spielberg has 21 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000229/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark
Lean has 13 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000180/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark
Fellini has 4 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000019/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark
Hitchcock has 20 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000033/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark
Stone has 20 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000231/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark

I mean, I can go on, but I think my drift has been noted at this point lol.

Only Tarantino has more, at *52* (which is insane lol) https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000233/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark, but you will never see me not call him formulaic lol.

I know that's a SUPER-VAGUE way at looking at it (especially since the entries are fan-written), but one cannot deny that even if he is more-versatile than given credit, he sticks to the same themes, settings, actors, more-often than not.

Anyways, think we've discussed Marty enough!

[Millhouse]

Im still a fan of them, though dont think I will be as big of a fan of this new Marvel phase these next many years. Definitely fan of the Iron Man to Avengers Endgame era tho. Also a big fan of the Dark Knight trilogy. And I liked Zac Snyder's 'Justice League' cut version better than the studio release. Deadpool is one my faves, and enjoyed Kick Ass.

But the big reason why they aren't going away any time soon is because they are moneymakers. And in this new era of streaming movies, there are less movies going to be made in general because the studios don't have VHS/DVD/BluRay sales to fall back on like they used to after theater releases. So even though streaming is convenient and cheap, we are basically going to get less quality movies overall and more Super Hero movies.

[fredtoast]

(12-31-2021, 12:57 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I mean, sure, but I would've increased the list if we were to do a really deep dive into the constant themes:

ADLHA has Keitel, who has worked with Scorsese a ton, as well as Jodie Foster.
LToC is about Catholicism, so that's a pretty big Italian connection there.
Age of Innocence is set in New York and has Daniel Day Lewis (who has NEVER worked with the same director more than once, outside of Jim Sheridan).
After Hours takes place in New York.
Color of Money is full of Italian-American actors/actresses.
Bringing Out the Dead takes place in New York, is full of Italian-American actors/actresses and stars Nick Cage, who is an incredibly-prominent Italian in American cinema.

Kundun is absolutely one that is completely non-formulaic/not-rehashed of themes/people of his works and is very-similar to Silence in that regard.

An American film he did that is completely unlike the others, would be Boxcar Bertha, one of his earliest and completely different in terms of themes and talent used. Not a very well-received film though lol

And just looking at his, "Trademarks," on IMDB, he has 26: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000217/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark

For comparison's sake:

Coppola has 7 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000338/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark
Spielberg has 21 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000229/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark
Lean has 13 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000180/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark
Fellini has 4 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000019/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark
Hitchcock has 20 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000033/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark
Stone has 20 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000231/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark

I mean, I can go on, but I think my drift has been noted at this point lol.

Only Tarantino has more, at *52* (which is insane lol) https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000233/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_tm_sm#trademark, but you will never see me not call him formulaic lol.

I know that's a SUPER-VAGUE way at looking at it (especially since the entries are fan-written), but one cannot deny that even if he is more-versatile than given credit, he sticks to the same themes, settings, actors, more-often than not.

Anyways, think we've discussed Marty enough!

Do you despise Jimi Hendrix because he played with the same guys a lot and every single one of his songs is either rock or blues?

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(01-03-2022, 02:48 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Do you despise Jimi Hendrix because he played with the same guys a lot and every single one of his songs is either rock or blues?

Not a very apt comparison, Fred.

Jimi was a Blues musician indeed, but typically, in music, you stick to the same genre.

Marty has been quite versatile in genres, doing dramas, comedies, gangster flicks, coming of age stories, foreign flicks, etc., etc.

And I won't deny Jimi's talent and awesomeness... but I AM actually not a big fan of his . LOVE All Along the Watchtower and the nWo version of Voodoo Child, as well though!

[Johnny Cupcakes]

I probably have almost 10,000 comics at my house, and have collected them for the majority of my life, so I'm much more of a critic of these movies than most people, but I probably have a bit of bias toward them as well.

With that said....Marvel has done an incredible job at staying true to the source material, while developing new storylines and building a universe. It is a huge cinematic accomplishment to bring that all together and to do it so well. It seems that liking these movies is a minority opinion in this thread, but there is a reason that 10 of the top 25 highest grossing films of all time were done by Marvel Studios...it's incredibly entertaining. It is also very common for them to be very highly regarded both critically, and by audiences.

DC comics has not had the same success...they just aren't as good.

Smaller comic publishers also have a ton of success dipping into their franchises, and you'd be surprised to see just how many films original material came from a comic book.

[fredtoast]

Here is my theory on why super hero movies are so popular.

We now have access to almost any movie at home not long after it appears in theatres. But action movies with a lot of special effects are best viewed on a big screen. So people who want to see a movie for the story, or characters wait and watch it at home, but they go to the theaters to see the super hero action adventure movies.

[XenoMorph]

(01-03-2022, 03:01 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Here is my theory on why super hero movies are so popular.

We now have access to almost any movie at home not long after it appears in theatres.  But action movies with a lot of special effects are best viewed on a big screen.  So people who want to see a movie for the story, or characters wait and watch it at home, but they go to the theaters to see the super hero action adventure movies.

Idk i wont pay to go see any marvel movie i wait till they are on netflix or someone lets me borrow them lol