The house that Burrow built

[Joelist]

There is zero need for a new stadium. Just give PBS a through overhaul and update and it is fine.

And NO ROOF. Football is an outdoor, cold weather sport. All this dome crap just leads to weak players because they are shielded from the elements. In fact really the NFL needs to have a moritorium on Super Bowls in warm weather settings for a few years - require that the Super Bowl rotates between the home stadiums of ALL NFL teams so that every franchise gets its turn and for the first few outings use Midwest and or Northern cities.

[The D.O.Z.]

I would actually prefer they keep PBS for as long as possible. It would be nice to build a culture of consistent winning and create some real history here, in the house named after one of pro football’s founders. Keep it fresh with renovations, maybe add a practice facility at some point.

[QueenCity]

I'm sort of indifferent... but I would personally like a retractable roof. Gets cold out there guys in December :)

[*bfine32*]

(02-02-2022, 11:54 PM)Joelist Wrote: There is zero need for a new stadium. Just give PBS a through overhaul and update and it is fine.

And NO ROOF. Football is an outdoor, cold weather sport. All this dome crap just leads to weak players because they are shielded from the elements. In fact really the NFL needs to have a moritorium on Super Bowls in warm weather settings for a few years - require that the Super Bowl rotates between the home stadiums of ALL NFL teams so that every franchise gets its turn and for the first few outings use Midwest and or Northern cities.

How many games have you went and watched in the freezing weather? 

Playing indoors don't make you weak. It's just something somebody behind a keyboard says. 

[Joelist]

(02-03-2022, 02:06 AM)bfine32 Wrote: How many games have you went and watched in the freezing weather? 

Playing indoors don't make you weak. It's just something somebody behind a keyboard says. 

I've been to Soldier Field, Lambeau, PBS and before that Riverfront all in the wintertime. Football is best when attended in winter conditions. 

[Roland]

(02-02-2022, 09:28 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Where? I think the closest they can get to the stadium would be across the river, which isn't a bad idea.

If it won't fit in the footprint of the existing practice fields (across Central from the stadium) then build it out across Pete Rose Way into the parking lots to the North.  Or build it from the stadium over Central into the practice fields.  You might have to reconfigure some streets but they've done that for other projects down there.

[Sled21]

(02-03-2022, 04:26 AM)Roland Wrote: If it won't fit in the footprint of the existing practice fields (across Central from the stadium) then build it out across Pete Rose Way into the parking lots to the North.  Or build it from the stadium over Central into the practice fields.  You might have to reconfigure some streets but they've done that for other projects down there.

They can't put any kind of enclosure over the practice fields because the city's power infrastructure runs under the fields. Even if they wanted to do that, they can't. And if you lose your parking lots, where are fans going to park? Granted, I don't live up there anymore so I'm not up on the layouts, I'm just saying why they can't do what you suggest.

[Earendil]

(02-03-2022, 02:28 AM)Joelist Wrote: I've been to Soldier Field, Lambeau, PBS and before that Riverfront all in the wintertime. Football is best when attended in winter conditions. 

I was at the Bengals-Broncos game in Denver that ended in a snowstorm. I'm very much looking forward to going to the game next year in Tampa instead.

[TecmoBengals]

I like new and shiny. An indoor stadium is the direction I'd like to see them go.

[Sled21]

(02-02-2022, 11:54 PM)Joelist Wrote: There is zero need for a new stadium. Just give PBS a through overhaul and update and it is fine.

And NO ROOF. Football is an outdoor, cold weather sport. All this dome crap just leads to weak players because they are shielded from the elements. In fact really the NFL needs to have a moritorium on Super Bowls in warm weather settings for a few years - require that the Super Bowl rotates between the home stadiums of ALL NFL teams so that every franchise gets its turn and for the first few outings use Midwest and or Northern cities.

The NFL has requirements for hosting a Super Bowl that goes beyond the field. The host city has to have certain hotel, restaurant and transportation capacities. You not only have those who go to the game, but many travel to the host city to party. Places like GB could never handle it. And it has to be in a warm weather climate or in a dome because the ultra rich who attend don't want to be cold. 

Beyond the reasonable requirements of airport capacity, hotel, restaurant and all that, they also have a list of requirements that matches any performing diva.....

Quote:Want your city to host a Super Bowl? This is what it takes, according to an NFL document.

The Super Bowl comes around every year, and while your focus is on making the best appetizers for your party, the city hosting the two best teams is making sure that every requirement is met to keep the National Football League happy. In 2013, a newspaper reporter uncovered the NFL’s Host City Specifications and Requirements, a confidential 153-page list of the league’s demands for any city bidding to host an upcoming Super Bowl. While the list is outdated, and there have been no new leaks to prove the NFL still requires these things, it was once a list of legitimate demands and some of them are too good not to share. You’ll also want to read up on these crazy Super Bowl facts you probably don’t know about.
Here are some of the most ridiculous requirements on the list:
Tee time: The league requires exclusive access to three top quality, 18-hole area golf courses (at no cost) so it can host a tournament on Super Bowl weekend.
Bowled over: The NFL also requests the use of two “top quality” bowling alleys (at no cost) for a bowling tournament the Wednesday and/or Thursday before the Super Bowl.
A crazy junket: Sixteen months before the game, the NFL will send 180 people to the host city for a “familiarization trip” to inspect the region. The host city must cover all the expenses.

Free housing: The host city must provide 40 three-bedroom, 50 two-bedroom, and 20 one-bedroom apartments for 30-40 day stays for working staff such as production and security. The apartments must be within a 20-minute drive to the stadium and have amenities such as Wi-Fi, full kitchens, washer and dryer facilities, televisions in the bedrooms, and a work-out facility on the property.
Hotel for the team: The NFL requires a hotel with a minimum of 1,000 rooms for their use with free items such as beer, snacks, Internet, meeting space, free parking, and storage space.
Show me the money: The NFL must be allowed to install ATMs in the stadium that accept “preferred” credit and debit cards. The league may also cover up or remove ATMs belonging to other banks if they wish to do so.
Can you hear me now?: If cell phone signal strength at the team hotels is too weak, the host committee must install boosters or erect portable cell towers. If watching the Super Bowl isn’t really your thing, here are some other activities you can do on the Sunday of the game.
Hotel makeover: Hotels, where the players stay, must carry the NFL network on their cable TV systems for a year prior to the Super Bowl.
Hello, publicity: The host city must give the NFL the use of at least 20 billboards at no charge.
Counterfeit committee: The city must cover the expense of providing the NFL with a task force devoted strictly to busting game-ticket counterfeiters.
Police patrol: Police escorts need to be provided to move the teams, media, and game officials, to and from the airport, practice facilities, and game at no cost.
Premium parking: On game day, the NFL gets access to 35,000 parking spots near the stadium at no cost.
Snow way: In the event of a snow or ice storm on game day, the city must give priority to the NFL “over all other ice and snow removal projects” (except in the case of threats to public safety).

https://www.rd.com/article/super-bowl-host-city-requirements/

[Foolishpride]

(02-03-2022, 10:42 AM)Sled21 Wrote: The NFL has requirements for hosting a Super Bowl that goes beyond the field. The host city has to have certain hotel, restaurant and transportation capacities. You not only have those who go to the game, but many travel to the host city to party. Places like GB could never handle it-th. And it has to be in a warm weather climate or in a dome because the ultra rich who attend don't want to be cold. 

The NFL did have the 2014 Super Bowl at East Rutherford NJ, but I think they've re-thought that decision and will never have another in a cold climate.  I believe a winter storm came a few hours after and cancelled most of the flights out of there.

[*SHRacerX*]

(02-03-2022, 02:06 AM)bfine32 Wrote: How many games have you went and watched in the freezing weather? 

Playing indoors don't make you weak. It's just something somebody behind a keyboard says. 

I was that person in my 20s....Now that I'm in my 50s, I want a dome.  If that makes me soft, so be it.  But there are LOTS of people that would prefer a dome.   The glare that hits the fans on the East side of the stadium would be gone.  It could have a ton of glass facing the downtown and river.  They could improve ingress/egress from the disaster that it is now. 

Right now, however, it is one of the biggest values in the NFL.  You can get a season ticket for something like $500 and still have pretty decent seats.  There really aren't bad seats.  

I would just love brand new stadium, with a dome, with a lot of glass facing the river and downtown.  Improve ingress and egress, with more elevators for elderly and handicapped.  I know it won't happen any time soon, but maybe 2035 wouldn't be out of the question.  

[TecmoBengals]

(02-03-2022, 11:07 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I was that person in my 20s....Now that I'm in my 50s, I want a dome.  If that makes me soft, so be it.  But there are LOTS of people that would prefer a dome.   The glare that hits the fans on the East side of the stadium would be gone.  It could have a ton of glass facing the downtown and river.  They could improve ingress/egress from the disaster that it is now. 

Right now, however, it is one of the biggest values in the NFL.  You can get a season ticket for something like $500 and still have pretty decent seats.  There really aren't bad seats.  

I would just love brand new stadium, with a dome, with a lot of glass facing the river and downtown.  Improve ingress and egress, with more elevators for elderly and handicapped.  I know it won't happen any time soon, but maybe 2035 wouldn't be out of the question.  

Nothing wrong with comfortably enjoying a game in climate controlled 72 degree temperatures. It would be nice to head to a December game and feel relaxed during the experience.

[Soonerpeace]

GMF just had a deep dive into “The Building of a Champion” on the Bengals. I’m positive there will be a video up on the Bengals website or app later today. Peter Schrager did a nice job. These were the top reasons the Bengals have succeeded. 1. The hiring of Zac Taylor and the keeping of Zac Taylor. He pulls up snippets of statements early on from Zac Taylor and when they were awful how this was going to happen. 2. Nailing the draft. 3. Spending money right in free agency. The big take away was Taylor’s confidence of a massive turnaround of actually exactly what’s transformed

[QueenCity]

I will say this being out there in the weather does make you feel as a fan more involved in the game in some weird way.

I went up to Buffalo for the Buffalo vs. Texans game this year... me and my gf was mauled by high winds and rain. The fans loved it...

[TecmoBengals]

(02-03-2022, 11:22 AM)QueenCity Wrote: I will say this being out there in the weather does make you feel as a fan more involved in the game in some weird way.

I went up to Buffalo for the Buffalo vs. Texans game this year... me and my gf was mauled by high winds and rain.  The fans loved it...

I'm not dismissing this comments or peoples feelings about enjoying the cold or bad weather, but I'll offer people are crazy that do! 

[*bfine32*]

(02-03-2022, 02:28 AM)Joelist Wrote: I've been to Soldier Field, Lambeau, PBS and before that Riverfront all in the wintertime. Football is best when attended in winter conditions. 

So I assume you'll be watching highlights outside the next couple days. Not everyone likes to be miserable while being entertained.