Stephon Gilmore

[WeezyBengal]

Any updates on what's going on with him?

I have this wild feeling he's going to end up here. Nothing to base that on, just a feeling. I think the Bengals gave him a strong offer and he's trying to decide.

[Science Friction]

(03-21-2022, 05:22 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Any updates on what's going on with him?

I have this wild feeling he's going to end up here. Nothing to base that on, just a feeling. I think the Bengals gave him a strong offer and he's trying to decide.

I believe he will be wearing black and orange,  not black and silver.  I think it happens by tomorrow at the latest. Hope it's not just wishful thinking, but I've had the same gut feeling for a day or so.

[WeezyBengal]

(03-21-2022, 05:25 PM)Science Friction Wrote: I believe he will be wearing black and orange,  not black and silver.  I think it happens by tomorrow at the latest. Hope it's not just wishful thinking, but I've had the same gut feeling for a day or so.

He's 31 and coming off a partial quad tear after reading more about him. He had a good year last year, though. 

I think he would be a good piece but he is older and I wouldn't drop a ton of money on him.

[Science Friction]

(03-21-2022, 05:34 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: He's 31 and coming off a partial quad tear after reading more about him. He had a good year last year, though. 

I think he would be a good piece but he is older and I wouldn't drop a ton of money on him.

Agree, I wouldn't drop tons of greenbacks on him, but if comes reasonable I'd like to have him.

[CJD]

I would be shocked if we sign Gilmore. Has something developed over the last few hours with him? Because all I've seen so far are super vague rumors from less than reputable sources.

[WeezyBengal]

(03-21-2022, 05:40 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I would be shocked if we sign Gilmore. Has something developed over the last few hours with him? Because all I've seen so far are super vague rumors from less than reputable sources.

Trae Waynes cut and I've seen rumblings on twitter (some with blue checkmarks) that the Bengals are trying to make a late push for him. 

[CarolinaBengalFanGuy]

If we don’t sign Gilmore this free agency period will be a let down. The sky is falling. Management doesn’t know what they are doing. So on and so forth.

[jj22]

All the twitter sources are saying the Bengals aren't in the hunt, it's a tactic from the agent so not so fast on the buildup (and disappointment).

[jj22]

@Wrightreportt said it would be surprising to the Bengals themselves to hear they were in on Gilmore, could be smokescreening but the Raiders are 100% getting worked by an agent

— Willie Lutz (@willie_lutz) March 21, 2022

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

I saw Mike Hilton's twitter recruitment attempt for him but that is all I have seen that is in the other Gilmore thread.

Sure would be an upgrade over Waynes who done nothing for us and maybe even over Apple as a mentor for a young
pick. Boundary Corner which is what we need as well.

[Luvnit2]

(03-21-2022, 05:48 PM)jj22 Wrote: All the twitter sources are saying the Bengals aren't in the hunt, it's a tactic from the agent so not so fast on the buildup (and disappointment).

Watson in no way is going to a Brown, then wait, he is a Brown.

The roller coasters of FA. Collins left town and we lost him, or did we?

This FA thing is an emotional roller coaster and the only ones having lots of fun are the agents. How would you like to be Watson's agent? What is 15% of 240 million dollars?

[RunKijanaRun]

He’d be a nice pickup, but I’m not going to pout if we don’t get him.

[Luvnit2]

(03-21-2022, 05:52 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I saw Mike Hilton's twitter recruitment attempt for him but that is all I have seen that is in the other Gilmore thread.

Sure would be an upgrade over Waynes who done nothing for us and maybe even over Apple as a mentor for a young
pick. Boundary Corner which is what we need as well.

If we are bringing in a vet, in my opinion a solid guy to mentor Eli Apple and DB's is Joe Hayden. He is probably also a less expensive option. I am sure other options are available or will be as well. Gilmore was great, I am not sure he will ever be great again.

[jj22]

No. The money saved by cutting Waynes is almost directly offset by adding Collins.

There may be another move or two, but they will be bargain bin type acquisitions toward the end of free agency. https://t.co/lvidm06xPU

— Jay Morrison (@JayMorrisonATH) March 21, 2022

[jj22]

https://t.co/7520l7O3le pic.twitter.com/mGpIGG7YHL

— Malik Wright (@Wrightreportt) March 21, 2022

[jj22]

All the normal sources are throwing water on this.

[Schmitbuck]

Assuming Collins cap # is $8-10M this year, the only way I see Gilmore being signed is if they decide to extend Bates and lower his cap # this year.

[jj22]

No sweat brother ?

When I asked two people about it they were unaware and told me “that would be news to me “

I was told that twice so I trust it. https://t.co/oGk6Sf0D2a

— Malik Wright (@Wrightreportt) March 21, 2022

[Luvnit2]

(03-21-2022, 06:01 PM)Schmitbuck Wrote: Assuming Collins cap # is $8-10M this year, the only way I see Gilmore being signed is if they decide to extend Bates and lower his cap # this year.

The Bengals could gain a ton of cap space by restructuring contracts paying base salary with a bonus and spread it over the course of the contract thus savings million on guys like Reader and Trey. 
Go NFL Spotrac and look under transactions tags, teams are doing this to get the cap money they need in 2022. We have not done it yet, but we can.

So it becomes a question of how bad they want to add a player, they can restructure contracts and get the cap money.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-21-2022, 05:57 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: If we are bringing in a vet, in my opinion a solid guy to mentor Eli Apple and DB's is Joe Hayden. He is probably also a less expensive option. I am sure other options are available or will be as well. Gilmore was great, I am not sure he will ever be great again.

Haden would be more than fine with me as well.