Money talking in Vegas

[fredtoast]

Ceasers Sportsbook released '22 Super Bowl odds on January 31.  Biggest mover since then has been the Bucs, but that is clearly based on the fact that on January 31 Tom Brady was still retired.

Second biggest mover has been our Bengals from 22-1 to 12-1.

Buffalo Bills are the only team with more bets placed to win the Super Bowl.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

Makes sense. The Bills and the Chargers are the only teams I think right now we need to see if we can beat to
prove we are the class of the AFC. It is stacked but we proven we can beat the Chiefs and the Titans. The Broncos
should also be really good with Russell and that Defense and the Raiders should be better with Davante Adams.

Cannot wait to see the Bills game this year and the Bucs game, Burrow vs Brady.

Bottom line is right now I would be betting on us or the Bills to play the Bucs in the SuperBowl.

[HarleyDog]

(06-09-2022, 05:57 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Bottom line is right now I would be betting on us or the Bills to play the Bucs in the SuperBowl.

AFCCG would be a freaken awesome game between the two. Oh, and I would give my left nut, wait.... I would give both nuts (not like I use them anymore) to have Burrow wipe the floor with Brady and the Bucs. 

[StoneTheCrow]

I could’ve SWORE I saw day after super bowl odds having the Bengals as odds on favorites in 2022. Maybe that was the 47 beers interpretation though.

[Johnny Cupcakes]

(06-09-2022, 10:32 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: I could’ve SWORE I saw day after super bowl odds having the Bengals as odds on favorites in 2022. Maybe that was the 47 beers interpretation though.

47? Legendary. That’s Wade Boggsesque.

[StoneTheCrow]

(06-09-2022, 10:41 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: 47? Legendary. That’s Wade Boggsesque.

I was marking each one off on my t-shirt like the Sunny crew and ended up looking like Mixons sleeve in your sig

[BFritz21]

The closest Sportsbook to Cincinnati has us at 20-1 to win the Super Bowl still, 10-1 to get there, and Burrow's only 11-1 now to win the MVP.

I think I'm going to put $1,000 on Burrow to win MVP to win $11,000, a grand on the Super Bowl to win $20,000, and a grand to make it to the Super Bowl and win $10,000.

[fredtoast]

(06-09-2022, 11:45 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I think I'm going to put $1,000 on MVP to win $11,000, 

Burrow may never have 3 WRs this good again in his career.

And even the greatest QBs play better with good receivers.

With the new O-line this may be Burrow's best chance ever to win an MVP.

[guyofthetiger]

Odds are interesting based on where the money is going. Reality is any team could win the Super Bowl given the right circumstances. I personally think the Bills are the team to watch this year. The Bengals will have a good year, but might fall a little short IMO.

[BFritz21]

(06-10-2022, 01:59 PM)guyofthetiger Wrote: Odds are interesting based on where the money is going. Reality is any team could win the Super Bowl given the right circumstances. I personally think the Bills are the team to watch this year. The Bengals will have a good year, but might fall a little short IMO.

Bills could be good with Allen under center. He has the current best odds to win MVP (I think?) but I seriously think everyone is underestimating how good Burrow will be behind a good offensive line.

I also think our defense is underrated.

They could fall a little bit short but I also think that Burrow is about to be unleashed on the NFL!

Burrow was sacked almost twice as much as Allen last year and Allen might have been knocked down or hurried more but he was also blitzed almost twice as much, meaning less defenders to cover his receiving options. Granted that they have also improved their line, but Burrow is better than Allen, IMCO, with a much better receiving corps.

I also think we'll use Mixon a lot more and that he's a lot better than Singletary.

Their defense should be better than ours but not by a lot.

[Dr.Z]

(06-10-2022, 03:23 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Bills could be good with Allen under center. He has the current best odds to win MVP (I think?) but I seriously think everyone is underestimating how good Burrow will be behind a good offensive line.

I also think our defense is underrated.

They could fall a little bit short but I also think that Burrow is about to be unleashed on the NFL!

Burrow was sacked almost twice as much as Allen last year and Allen might have been knocked down or hurried more but he was also blitzed almost twice as much, meaning less defenders to cover his receiving options. Granted that they have also improved their line, but Burrow is better than Allen, IMCO, with a much better receiving corps.

I also think we'll use Mixon a lot more and that he's a lot better than Singletary.

Their defense should be better than ours but not by a lot.

 I think Cook (Dalvin's brother) could push him for snaps and make their overall rb room better, although I still agree with the statement. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(06-09-2022, 07:42 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: AFCCG would be a freaken awesome game between the two. Oh, and I would give my left nut, wait.... I would give both nuts (not like I use them anymore) to have Burrow wipe the floor with Brady and the Bucs. 

Yes sir Harley. Cannot wait for that game, gonna be legendary.

(06-09-2022, 10:32 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: I could’ve SWORE I saw day after super bowl odds having the Bengals as odds on favorites in 2022. Maybe that was the 47 beers interpretation though.

Now THAT is some good brewskie drinkin'.   

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(06-10-2022, 04:29 PM)Dr.Z Wrote:  I think Cook (Dalvin's brother) could push him for snaps and make their overall rb room better, although I still agree with the statement. 

I forgot the Bills got Dalvin's brother, what is his first name again?

[grampahol]

(06-09-2022, 07:42 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: AFCCG would be a freaken awesome game between the two. Oh, and I would give my left nut, wait.... I would give both nuts (not like I use them anymore) to have Burrow wipe the floor with Brady and the Bucs. 

Personally I'm going shopping for walnuts and give up two of those. I'm not giving up the two I was born with just to see two teams play in any game.. Feel free to hack off your own, but I'm keeping mine. Fun is fun, right?  

[BFritz21]

(06-10-2022, 06:47 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I forgot the Bills got Dalvin's brother, what is his first name again?

James. 

He's not as big of a back as Dalvin but he has good vision and moves and is probably a better receiver than Dalvin.

He wasn't used as much at Georgia because they didn't really need him but I think he could develop into something special in the NFL.

[Dr.Z]

(06-10-2022, 08:38 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: James. 

He's not as big of a back as Dalvin but he has good vision and moves and is probably a better receiver than Dalvin.

He wasn't used as much at Georgia because they didn't really need him but I think he could develop into something special in the NFL.

Agreed for the most part. I considered his vision a negative before last season but he seemed much better (possibly bc of more opportunity or development ?). I think Cook has some bust potential , but also a decent ceiling due to measurables and improvements in his final year @ G. He actually played behind Bengals rb Holyfield (who probably would’ve been drafted if his 40 time would’ve been better). I think Cook is a better rb on tape, although Holyfield is an odd tape to evaluate bc he’s unorthodox in style, so perhaps he’s a natural outlier at the position. I did see a tad bit of Arian Foster in his tape if I were reaching for optimistic comparisons (regarding Holyfield ). Speaking of Cook again, I personally think he went a bit higher than I would’ve taken him, but he was drafted into a good situation with opportunity , and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him succeed.

[Nickslycat]

(06-09-2022, 05:50 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Ceasers Sportsbook released '22 Super Bowl odds on January 31.  Biggest mover since then has been the Bucs, but that is clearly based on the fact that on January 31 Tom Brady was still retired.

Second biggest mover has been our Bengals from 22-1 to 12-1.

Buffalo Bills are the only team with more bets placed to win the Super Bowl.

I guess no other gamblers on here?  After the super bowl, the bengals were 8.5 to one to win the super bowl, they currently are 22 to 1.
https://www.legalsportsreport.com/odds/super-bowl/
  

Let’s see you argue your way out of this.

[fredtoast]

(06-11-2022, 08:24 AM)Nickslycat Wrote: I guess no other gamblers on here?  After the super bowl, the bengals were 8.5 to one to win the super bowl, they currently are 22 to 1.
https://www.legalsportsreport.com/odds/super-bowl/
  

Let’s see you argue your way out of this.

I don't understand.

What am I supposed to argue my way out of?

Here is the link to where I got my numbers.  NFL notable bets - Bills dominating early Super Bowl futures (espn.com)

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(06-10-2022, 08:38 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: James. 

He's not as big of a back as Dalvin but he has good vision and moves and is probably a better receiver than Dalvin.

He wasn't used as much at Georgia because they didn't really need him but I think he could develop into something special in the NFL.

Thanks Brad.

(06-10-2022, 09:24 PM)Dr.Z Wrote: Agreed for the most part.   I considered his vision a negative before last season but he seemed much better (possibly bc of more opportunity or development ?).  I think Cook has some bust potential , but also a decent ceiling due to measurables and improvements in his final year @ G.   He actually played behind Bengals rb Holyfield (who probably would’ve been drafted if his 40 time would’ve been better).   I think Cook is a better rb on tape, although Holyfield is an odd tape to evaluate bc he’s unorthodox in style, so perhaps he’s a natural outlier at the position.   I did see a tad bit of Arian Foster in his tape if I were reaching for optimistic comparisons (regarding Holyfield ). Speaking of Cook again, I personally think he went a bit higher than I would’ve taken him, but he was drafted into a good situation with opportunity , and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him succeed.

First time I have paid attention to our UDFA RB's. Never heard of Holyfield the RB, must not of watched much of Georgia 
while these guys were there. Thanks for giving me the lowdown on these dudes. Will pay more attention to them now.

[Nickslycat]

(06-11-2022, 12:50 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't understand.

What am I supposed to argue my way out of?

Here is the link to where I got my numbers.  NFL notable bets - Bills dominating early Super Bowl futures (espn.com)

I clicked your link, I guess your site was wrong.  The current odds are 22-1, as the link I provided shows.  I can place a bet right now at Caesar’s and get 22-1 odds, not 12-1.  On 4-28, I was in Vegas and placed a 200 dollar bet at 20 to 1.

At 22 - 1, the Bengals are the most tempting bet on the board.  At 12-1, they were not.  

The day after the super bowl, the Bengals were 8.5 to 1, they are 22-1 now, you have the movement of their futures wrong.

Vegas deemed the Bengals as having a 11.7% chance of winning the super bowl the day after the super bowl.

Bettors were not taking this bet, as they currently have a 4.54% chance. 11 teams currently have bettor odds than the Bengals.