PFF Grades - Week 15

[*SHRacerX*]

(12-19-2022, 02:20 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

PFF Grades from the win over the Buccs, here we go

Offense
Burrow; 75.2
Cappa; 69.7
Boyd; 69.5
Mixon; 64.2
Higgins; 63.6

Defense
Flowers; 90.0
BJ Hill; 82.0
Bates; 76.2
Tufele; 69.1
Tupou; 66.7

— Der German Tiger??? (@DerGermanTiger) December 19, 2022

Pretty big day for BJ Hill seeing as how they moved him to DE after Hubbard went down for a number of his snaps.  

[Earendil]

(12-19-2022, 03:00 PM)casear2727 Wrote:

JONAH. FREAKING. WILLAMS!!!

— Parker Blake (@ParkerBlake60) December 19, 2022

 

Don't tell anyone, but Jonah jumped early on that snap. I noticed it a couple of times yesterday and he didn't get called for it.

[Boomer Anderson]

(12-19-2022, 02:39 PM)michaelsean Wrote: That guy ran around Collins quite a few times.

La”el struggles with speed big time.

[BengalsBong]

(12-19-2022, 02:53 PM)Wyche Wrote: So, seeing as how Jonah has started to regain his form the last several weeks, and Volson continues to grow beside him.....what is your guys' opinion on keeping him around?

We cannot replace Jonah and Collins in the same year I do not think. If Collins does not put a 3-game streak together that he is playing at a high level, then there is no reason to keep him next year. 

[Frank Booth]

(12-19-2022, 09:35 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: We cannot replace Jonah and Collins in the same year I do not think. If Collins does not put a 3-game streak together that he is playing at a high level, then there is no reason to keep him next year. 

bengals will have Jonah next year, so drop Collins and try to find his replacement?

[*Go Cards*]

The re-emergence of Jonah after his injury warrants the Bengals to offer another contract if he continues to play well through next year imo.

Collins is so susceptible to getting beat on the speed rushes its alarming. Reminds me of Spain, if it gets you squared up he is solid but speed kills him.

Thought most all of the grades looked reasonable but was surprised to see Mixon and Bates #'s that high. Not doubting but just by watching it seemed neither stood out.

Flowers is really growing and blossoming as well.

[SouthernFan]

(12-19-2022, 02:55 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Well yeah if there's a stud RT at 32 then by all means grab him.

Actually there will be only 31 first round picks. Dolphins have forfeited theirs.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(12-19-2022, 02:57 PM)Joelist Wrote: So they charged Collins with a sack for that ridiculous play where Burrow stood there for 6 seconds before being touched?

This sack is on LC.

There's nowhere to step up. Burrow could get rid of it quicker I guess, but his first read is taken away by good coverage. His RT is on his face. Needed half a second to get to Chase over the middle of the field. pic.twitter.com/0CnMOlB5gE

— Mike (@bengals_sans) December 20, 2022

[BengalsBong]

(12-19-2022, 09:46 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: bengals will have Jonah next year, so drop Collins and try to find his replacement?

Useless we get a guy in free agency finding two offensive tackles ready to start year one in the draft is as rare as getting Joe B one year and Chase the next.

I like Collins a lot too was hoping he would work out decent contract and big powerful guy. I just do not think he has that want too that is needed.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(12-19-2022, 10:24 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: Useless we get a guy in free agency finding two offensive tackles ready to start year one in the draft is as rare as getting Joe B one year and Chase the next.

I like Collins a lot too was hoping he would work out decent contract and big powerful guy. I just do not think he has that want too that is needed.

I don’t think that’s it at all. It’s more likely his back issues.

[jeremydc]

Collins is still an improvement from years past imo.

[casear2727]

(12-19-2022, 06:51 PM)Earendil Wrote: Don't tell anyone, but Jonah jumped early on that snap. I noticed it a couple of times yesterday and he didn't get called for it.

Jonah has been jumping early on every snap... shocked he only has one penalty.

[Frank Booth]

(12-19-2022, 10:31 PM)jeremydc Wrote: Collins is still an improvement from years past imo.

and poo is browner than pee

[*michaelsean*]

(12-19-2022, 10:06 PM)SouthernFan Wrote: Actually there will be only 31 first round picks. Dolphins have forfeited theirs.

Did not know that.

[Science Friction]

(12-19-2022, 10:01 PM)Go Cards Wrote: The re-emergence of Jonah after his injury warrants the Bengals to offer another contract if he continues to play well through next year imo.

Collins is so susceptible to getting beat on the speed rushes its alarming. Reminds me of Spain, if it gets you squared up he is solid but speed kills him.

Thought most all of the grades looked reasonable but was surprised to see Mixon and Bates #'s that high. Not doubting but just by watching it seemed neither stood out.

Flowers is really growing and blossoming as well.

I see what you did there!!!

[sandwedge]

(12-19-2022, 02:59 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Jonah and Volson switching and dominating..

Jonah knockdown to kick off the game?? pic.twitter.com/q3b8cEH2yA

— Parker Blake (@ParkerBlake60) December 19, 2022

Look what Volson did to his man!!! Flat out knocked him on his ass!!!

[WhodeyRay]

(12-19-2022, 03:52 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Mauch is a beauty!
That is how I like my linemen. If he lost those teeth opening a beer bottle then that's my dude!!!!

[Frank Booth]

(12-20-2022, 12:03 AM)sandwedge Wrote: Look what Volson did to his man!!! Flat out knocked him on his ass!!!

??? That was Jonah. the tweet even says it

[Foolishpride]

(12-20-2022, 12:03 AM)sandwedge Wrote: Look what Volson did to his man!!! Flat out knocked him on his ass!!!

Jonah actually knocked him down, Volson gave him a lick when he was down.

[WVUHomer]

(12-19-2022, 10:24 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: Useless we get a guy in free agency finding two offensive tackles ready to start year one in the draft is as rare as getting Joe B one year and Chase the next.

I like Collins a lot too was hoping he would work out decent contract and big powerful guy. I just do not think he has that want too that is needed.

Unless things change, FA does not sound like it will be an option for improving that position. As of right now, per Spotrac, these are the FA options for OT:

Jack Conklin CLE
George Fant NYJ
Mike McGlinchey SF
Isaiah Wynn NE
Terrence Steele DAL

Of the above, the only ones I see their team let get away is Conklin, Fant and Wynn. Of those, I'd go Conklin then Wynn (even if his injuries scare me). Maybe FP sees a better candidate than I. 

Even looking at this draft, may not be able to get a talent that could supplant LC (at pick 31). Maybe Mauch or Wright (who i picked in my mock) but even then, you're gambling on: a. the player being there b. he works out (Isaiah Wilson flashbacks for the Titans).

It really feels like we will just have to go with what we have and wait until the 2024 draft to replace LC. At that point, I'd hope we have an extension on Jonah. Hell, maybe D Smith finally is able to show us what he has but seems unlikely at this point considering he's never stayed healthy enough to dress, let alone play.