Be On The Lookout For The Referees

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[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-20-2023, 11:52 AM)Mafioso Wrote: I disagree
https://twitter.com/nfl/status/1614828685848346625?s=46&t=dd7ZwhDr1vehnMDGRNa8Bw

(01-20-2023, 01:23 PM)Tomkat Wrote: YOU. ARE. WRONG. END. OF. STORY.
When contact was initiated, the players were SHOULDER-TO-SHOULDER.
It was only because Andrews stumbled and fell forward that made it look like a block in the back.

(01-20-2023, 01:45 PM)Mafioso Wrote: They were side by side for one moment because Andrews was passing him.  Sure contract was made as they were next to each other….then he passed him and pushed him in the back.  

What’s done is done and we disagree and won’t be convincing each other otherwise.

Wild, even if I was a Ravens fan and looked at that over and over it is clearly a block in the shoulder.

Like I said, they DO call that at times which is BS to the game. So many Returns have been brought back because of these calls
and it has damn near ruined that aspect of the game. Speaking of returns, we need to keep Hinez contained, that guy is one hell 
of a Returner.

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(01-19-2023, 12:44 PM)Science Friction Wrote: You can't convince me 

That's unfortunate. A closed mind is a wonderful thing to waste. 

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(01-19-2023, 05:50 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: He did also ref the game against the Titans this year, which the Bengals won on the road.

Yeah. Refs don't matter. There is no conspiracy. The team that executes better and more consistently will win. 

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(01-19-2023, 05:50 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: He did also ref the game against the Titans this year, which the Bengals won on the road.

Plus, i prefer the obscure stats you find that are more accurate than conspiracies. 

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(01-20-2023, 12:26 AM)RegularGuy22 Wrote: Nobody will ever convince me 

That's unfortunate. A closed mind is already defeated.

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(01-20-2023, 01:24 AM)MileHighGrowler Wrote: Only 10?  That's 2" less than I'm working with 

That's what she said.

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(01-20-2023, 07:14 AM)Trademark Wrote: The fix is in! Carl Cheffers is a ref for Sunday's game. Bills are 6-0 when he's the ref, Bengals are 1-3. He leads the league in penalties vs visiting teams

You should be quite embarrassed to post this. 

[Gdale_Bengal]

It just seems too obvious lol.

Bills get 2 seed, beat up the bengals by playing a dirty Ravens team twice, injuring starters both games. Letting the Bills get home field advantage and selecting a ref the bills are 6-0 with while the bengals are 1-3 with. Likes to call holds and false starts, 3 2nd string players on the line now. Tin foil hat maybe, and you can’t count out Burrow, but you can count him out when he can’t get a fair shake with refs getting flag happy on them.

Hope I’m wrong!

[Bengalholic]

(01-20-2023, 03:32 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Yeah. Refs don't matter. There is no conspiracy. The team that executes better and more consistently will win. 

Yep. Cheffers has worked 7 Bills games over the last 5 years. The Bills have been penalized 52 times compared 43 times for the opponents. 

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Bills and Cheffers. Last 5 years.

Opponent    Bills home/away    Bills penalties more/less    Bills record     Opponent record    W/L
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Dolphins                H                           M                          5-1                     0-5                 W
Titans                    A                           M                          4-0                     3-0                 L
Jets                       A                           M                          5-1                     0-6                 W
Ravens                  H                            L                         14-3                   12-5                 W
Chiefs                    A                           M                          3-1                     2-2                  W
Rams                     A                           M                          0-0                     0-0                 W
Bears                     A                           M                         11-3                   3-11                 W


As you can see, the Bills were the away team 5 out of 7 games. Cheffers crews favor the home team 65% over the last 5 years. The NFL average is around 55%. 6 out of the 7 games the Bills were penalized more than their opponent. You can see the records for yourself. 3 really bad teams there, one opener (bad Rams) and 2 good teams. 

Looks like we can cease and desist the ridiculous "fixed" narrative. Both teams are likely to be penalized more than their average. Play a clean game and there won't be a problem. 

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(01-20-2023, 03:55 PM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: It just seems too obvious lol.

Bills get 2 seed, beat up the bengals by playing a dirty Ravens team twice, injuring starters both games. Letting the Bills get home field advantage and selecting a ref the bills are 6-0 with while the bengals are 1-3 with. Likes to call holds and false starts, 3 2nd string players on the line now. Tin foil hat maybe, and you can’t count out Burrow, but you can count him out when he can’t get a fair shake with refs getting flag happy on them.

Hope I’m wrong!

Hedging your bets. Always a smart play. 

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(01-20-2023, 04:02 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Yep. Cheffers has worked 7 Bills games over the last 5 years. The Bills have been penalized 52 times compared 43 times for the opponents. 

Great...now i have to update my stats.   

[MileHighGrowler]

(01-20-2023, 10:10 AM)packerbacker Wrote: I see your from Denver. How has your winter been out there?

It's been brutal.  More snow than usual and colder than usual.  It's great getting all the water to fill the reservoirs, but at this point in the year I'm wishing it would be 60s and rain if we're going to get precipitation.  Has the Midwest been similar this year? 

To the topic of the thread, it's true and fair to state that in close games, a missed/blown call can really change the momentum or possibly the outcome.  But it is what it is.  I don't think that on its own has anything to do with a fix being in, or the league's intention to punish the Bengals.  The Bengals have the exact same chance to win this weekend as the Bills.  Just go in and get it done.   

[Gdale_Bengal]

(01-20-2023, 04:43 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Hedging your bets. Always a smart play. 

I’m not hedging anything. I hope that it’s not too skewed like I think it could be, which would be like the Steelers Seahawks SB.

I know not to doubt Burrow, but, if the bengals start driving down there throat, and it looks like tge Bengals are the better team Sunday, and then some interesting penalties start flying in…it will make you start thinking! Lol

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(01-20-2023, 05:16 PM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: I’m not hedging anything. I hope that it’s not too skewed like I think it could be, which would be like the Steelers Seahawks SB.

I know not to doubt Burrow, but, if the bengals start driving down there throat, and it looks like tge Bengals are the better team Sunday, and then some interesting penalties start flying in…it will make you start thinking! Lol

That's kinda the definition of hedging. ninjaninjaninja

I think, any game you watch, you're going to see some interesting penalties. It's just silly to think that it only happens to your team, or it happens to your team "because" (in this case, Hamlin) because every single fan base in the NFL believes the refs are out to get them. 

Every.single.one.

[TheFan]

(01-20-2023, 03:55 PM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: It just seems too obvious lol.

Bills get 2 seed, beat up the bengals by playing a dirty Ravens team twice, injuring starters both games. Letting the Bills get home field advantage and selecting a ref the bills are 6-0 with while the bengals are 1-3 with. Likes to call holds and false starts, 3 2nd string players on the line now. Tin foil hat maybe, and you can’t count out Burrow, but you can count him out when he can’t get a fair shake with refs getting flag happy on them.

Hope I’m wrong!

How many times do people need to post stats proving this is wrong before people admit it's wrong? 

[MTBengalsFan]

I read some of thse posts and instantly understand why a buddy believes in so many conspiracy theories.

Any ref who was told to favor one teamm over another would surely have taken the opportunity to make a fortune off a best-selling book. Somebody would have leaked such a scandalous story. Everybody on sports radio would be talking about it. Some Vegas thugs would love to tell their boss about an upcoming thrown game, so the casino could change the point spread.

Do bad officiating calls against the Bengals piss me off? You bet! But I also recognize some calls favor the Bengals.

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(01-20-2023, 06:08 PM)MTBengalsFan Wrote: I read some of thse posts and instantly understand why a buddy believes in so many conspiracy theories.

Any ref who was told to favor one teamm over another would surely have taken the opportunity to make a fortune off a best-selling book. Somebody would have leaked such a scandalous story. Everybody on sports radio would be talking about it. Some Vegas thugs would love to tell their boss about an upcoming thrown game, so the casino could change the point spread.

Do bad officiating calls against the Bengals piss me off? You bet! But I also recognize some calls favor the Bengals.

The NFL ***** up every single thing they touch. They literally mess up every single decision...but they're gonna pull off the greatest heist in the history of mankind. 

Yeah. I don't think so. 

[HarleyDog]

(01-20-2023, 04:02 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Yep. Cheffers has worked 7 Bills games over the last 5 years. The Bills have been penalized 52 times compared 43 times for the opponents. 

Say whaaaaaatttttttt? Now this is pleasantly arousing.