Congrats on the Burrow signing!

[JS-Steelerfan]

Highest paid player in the NFL!  You guys have finally arrived!  

Here’s you searching for a supporting cast in a few years, though …

[SunsetBengal]

(09-08-2023, 05:36 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: Highest paid player in the NFL!  You guys have finally arrived!  

Here’s you searching for a supporting cast in a few years, though …

Possibly, but this coaching regime seems to have the talent evaluation and draft things figured out.  Most of the other key supporting players have already been extended and or have had their potential replacements drafted, so other than Tee Higgins the future looks pretty solid for at least the next couple of years.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

Thanks for the congrats, just glad it got done before Burrow really got good...

[*rfaulk34*]

(09-08-2023, 05:36 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: Highest paid player in the NFL!  You guys have finally arrived!  

Here’s you searching for a supporting cast in a few years, though …

[StrictlyBiz]

Yeah, I'll begrudgingly give you all congrats. As much as I want to talk some kind of smack, it's hard to dislike and talk shit on Joey B. He seems like a genuinely likable guy and overall good dude. Kinda like how Ben Roethlisberger used to be.

[JS-Steelerfan]

(09-09-2023, 12:18 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote:

via GIPHY

[JS-Steelerfan]

(09-09-2023, 02:08 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: Yeah, I'll begrudgingly give you all congrats. As much as I want to talk some kind of smack, it's hard to dislike and talk shit on Joey B. He seems like a genuinely likable guy and overall good dude. Kinda like how Ben Roethlisberger used to be.

Smack on Joey B., maybe.  Smack on the Bengals?  Not so hard.  This contract is going to hit them right in the salary cap cojones.  

[StrictlyBiz]

(09-09-2023, 02:16 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: Smack on Joey B., maybe.  Smack on the Bengals?  Not so hard.  This contract is going to hit them right in the salary cap cojones.  

Oh yeah, it's definitely going to be tough now. Just look at the Chefs with their WR core they've got going. But that's the beauty of the cap. Ultimately, it comes back to how well you draft and develop. 

[StrictlyBiz]

(09-09-2023, 12:18 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote:

I know that success is something new to the people of Cincinnati, but he's right. 

This is what happens when you get a franchise QB. Don't get me wrong, it's a good problem to have and better than not having a QB at all. But it's tough field a team while paying a QB his 2nd contract and beyond. 

[*rfaulk34*]

(09-09-2023, 04:31 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: I know that success is something new to the people of Cincinnati, but he's right. 

This is what happens when you get a franchise QB. Don't get me wrong, it's a good problem to have and better than not having a QB at all. But it's tough field a team while paying a QB his 2nd contract and beyond. 

Not really. I know how it works.

With Burrow signed, the Bengals should still be able to sign Chase to top dollar. They can't sign Higgins to a long or short term contract. They could still tag him next year because Burrow and Chase will still be at a lower number. If they do it right, they could tag and trade him next year for some picks. 

They already have Hubbard signed through '25 and they just extended Hendrickson. Ossai still has 2 years left on his contract and they drafted Miles Murphy this year. They have Pratt for 3 more years and just extended Logan Wilson who will be here through '27. Dax Hill and CTB are starters in year 2 (rookie contracts) and they drafted a couple other safeties in the last couple years (one of them this year). They still have Hilton for 2 more years. Awuzie is the guy they probably won't be able to afford, if he plays up to his '21 standard. DJ Reader is getting long in the tooth and they probably won't be able to sign him once he comes up. They just drafted 2 WRs, Yoshi and Chris Jones to fill a wideout and slot that could be available soon, if they can't ink Higgins and Boyd. 

Guys on a rookie contract that will contribute this year: (S) = starter
DJ Turner
Jordan Battle
Dax Hill (S)
CTB (S)
Cordell Volson (S)
Ja'Marr Chase (S)
Joseph Ossai

Significant FA next year:
DJ Reader
Tyler Boyd
Chidobe Awuzie
Jonah Williams
Tee Higgins
Irv Smith
All are starters. They will be able to sign at least 2 of them and Smith is JAG. Burrow has gotten Uzomah and Hurst paid the last 2 years and that position is plug and play for the Bengals. Usually a 4th option in the offense. For each name on that list, they already have a guy that could step in and play. They don't have a single hole in the team. The biggest question, for the 3rd year in a row is going to be the offensive line. 

Not counting this year, they've had 3 very good drafts with players that have and will play a key role on the team and this years draft has at least 4 guys that will have key backup spots covered. 

Burrow, counting this year, will still have 3 years of sub 40M+ AAV before his money kicks in for the '26 season. Same for Chase. They'll extend him next year and his big money won't hit until '27. 

So basically, they can still do things for the next 4 years before big money starts rearing it's ugly head, and there's a lot of time between now and 2027.

Finally, and most importantly, Duke Tobin and Zac Taylor seem to work very well together. Much better than Tobin/Marvin. With how the front office has been doing things since Taylor has been here, as long as those 2 stay together, the team should be in good hands for quite a while.

[JS-Steelerfan]

(09-09-2023, 07:35 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Not really. I know how it works.

With Burrow signed, the Bengals should still be able to sign Chase to top dollar. They can't sign Higgins to a long or short term contract. They could still tag him next year because Burrow and Chase will still be at a lower number. If they do it right, they could tag and trade him next year for some picks. 

They already have Hubbard signed through '25 and they just extended Hendrickson. Ossai still has 2 years left on his contract and they drafted Miles Murphy this year. They have Pratt for 3 more years and just extended Logan Wilson who will be here through '27. Dax Hill and CTB are starters in year 2 (rookie contracts) and they drafted a couple other safeties in the last couple years (one of them this year). They still have Hilton for 2 more years. Awuzie is the guy they probably won't be able to afford, if he plays up to his '21 standard. DJ Reader is getting long in the tooth and they probably won't be able to sign him once he comes up. They just drafted 2 WRs, Yoshi and Chris Jones to fill a wideout and slot that could be available soon, if they can't ink Higgins and Boyd. 

Guys on a rookie contract that will contribute this year: (S) = starter
DJ Turner
Jordan Battle
Dax Hill (S)
CTB (S)
Cordell Volson (S)
Ja'Marr Chase (S)
Joseph Ossai

Significant FA next year:
DJ Reader
Tyler Boyd
Chidobe Awuzie
Jonah Williams
Tee Higgins
Irv Smith
All are starters. They will be able to sign at least 2 of them and Smith is JAG. Burrow has gotten Uzomah and Hurst paid the last 2 years and that position is plug and play for the Bengals. Usually a 4th option in the offense. For each name on that list, they already have a guy that could step in and play. They don't have a single hole in the team. The biggest question, for the 3rd year in a row is going to be the offensive line. 

Not counting this year, they've had 3 very good drafts with players that have and will play a key role on the team and this years draft has at least 4 guys that will have key backup spots covered. 

Burrow, counting this year, will still have 3 years of sub 40M+ AAV before his money kicks in for the '26 season. Same for Chase. They'll extend him next year and his big money won't hit until '27. 

So basically, they can still do things for the next 4 years before big money starts rearing it's ugly head, and there's a lot of time between now and 2027.

Finally, and most importantly, Duke Tobin and Zac Taylor seem to work very well together. Much better than Tobin/Marvin. With how the front office has been doing things since Taylor has been here, as long as those 2 stay together, the team should be in good hands for quite a while.

That’s all well and good, but c’mon … this is the Bengals we’re talking about here.  Surely deep down inside you know that they’ll figure out a way to screw this thing up …

[*rfaulk34*]

(09-09-2023, 08:47 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: That’s all well and good, but c’mon … this is the Bengals we’re talking about here.  Surely deep down inside you know that they’ll figure out a way to screw this thing up …

In the Mike Brown days, yeah. This ain't your dad's bengals though. 

[*michaelsean*]

Thanks for the jinx

[StrictlyBiz]

(09-09-2023, 07:35 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Not really. I know how it works.

With Burrow signed, the Bengals should still be able to sign Chase to top dollar. They can't sign Higgins to a long or short term contract. They could still tag him next year because Burrow and Chase will still be at a lower number. If they do it right, they could tag and trade him next year for some picks. 

They already have Hubbard signed through '25 and they just extended Hendrickson. Ossai still has 2 years left on his contract and they drafted Miles Murphy this year. They have Pratt for 3 more years and just extended Logan Wilson who will be here through '27. Dax Hill and CTB are starters in year 2 (rookie contracts) and they drafted a couple other safeties in the last couple years (one of them this year). They still have Hilton for 2 more years. Awuzie is the guy they probably won't be able to afford, if he plays up to his '21 standard. DJ Reader is getting long in the tooth and they probably won't be able to sign him once he comes up. They just drafted 2 WRs, Yoshi and Chris Jones to fill a wideout and slot that could be available soon, if they can't ink Higgins and Boyd. 

Guys on a rookie contract that will contribute this year: (S) = starter
DJ Turner
Jordan Battle
Dax Hill (S)
CTB (S)
Cordell Volson (S)
Ja'Marr Chase (S)
Joseph Ossai

Significant FA next year:
DJ Reader
Tyler Boyd
Chidobe Awuzie
Jonah Williams
Tee Higgins
Irv Smith
All are starters. They will be able to sign at least 2 of them and Smith is JAG. Burrow has gotten Uzomah and Hurst paid the last 2 years and that position is plug and play for the Bengals. Usually a 4th option in the offense. For each name on that list, they already have a guy that could step in and play. They don't have a single hole in the team. The biggest question, for the 3rd year in a row is going to be the offensive line. 

Not counting this year, they've had 3 very good drafts with players that have and will play a key role on the team and this years draft has at least 4 guys that will have key backup spots covered. 

Burrow, counting this year, will still have 3 years of sub 40M+ AAV before his money kicks in for the '26 season. Same for Chase. They'll extend him next year and his big money won't hit until '27. 

So basically, they can still do things for the next 4 years before big money starts rearing it's ugly head, and there's a lot of time between now and 2027.

Finally, and most importantly, Duke Tobin and Zac Taylor seem to work very well together. Much better than Tobin/Marvin. With how the front office has been doing things since Taylor has been here, as long as those 2 stay together, the team should be in good hands for quite a while.

Wrong forum. Put this in the AFC North forum. We've got no time for serious analysis here. It's smack talk. 

[*rfaulk34*]

(09-11-2023, 04:27 AM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: Wrong forum. Put this in the AFC North forum. We've got no time for serious analysis here. It's smack talk. 

Joe Burrow's dad can kick your dad's ass!!

[StrictlyBiz]

(09-11-2023, 11:21 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Joe Burrow's dad can kick your dad's ass!!

If he lands his punches at the same rate his son completes passes, he'll do just fine. 

[JS-Steelerfan]

(09-09-2023, 09:30 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: In the Mike Brown days, yeah. This ain't your dad's bengals though. 

This aged well.  

[6andcounting]

(10-02-2023, 03:52 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: This aged well.  

AFCN QB Joe 2.0

[Interceptor]

(09-08-2023, 05:36 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: Highest paid player in the NFL!  You guys have finally arrived!  

Here’s you searching for a supporting cast in a few years, though …

Or a good backup QB

[*Awful Llama*]

Meh, no worries. Mike's a sharp guy and I'm sure he kept the receipt for that 30 day return policy.