Trey Hendrickson

[Bengalbug]

(10-11-2023, 10:14 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Top 10 edge rushers in pass-rush win rate this season.

Only 10 guys over 20% pic.twitter.com/8eD3LW7yrb

— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) October 11, 2023

Good stuff. Browns and Cowboys are ridiculous.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(10-11-2023, 10:54 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Good stuff.  Browns and Cowboys are ridiculous.

Sure wish we could add an End that could be a great compliment on the other side of Trey like the Stains and Cowboys have.

Love Hubbard but he is a great run stopper and sometimes a good pass rusher right now. Have to hope Ossai becomes this for us I 
suppose, but it seems like he is still recovering from his injury.

[Bengalbug]

(10-11-2023, 02:39 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Sure wish we could add an End that could be a great compliment on the other side of Trey like the Stains and Cowboys have.

Love Hubbard but he is a great run stopper and sometimes a good pass rusher right now. Have to hope Ossai becomes this for us I 
suppose, but it seems like he is still recovering from his injury.

… or Murphy. I was so hoping they would go get a guy like Frank Clark, Yannick Ngakoue, Brandon Graham,Leonard Floyd, Melvin Ingram or Justin Houston.

Not all of them are being productive right now but Leonard Floyd is doing well in Buffalo. Someone to help come in and close out drives/games.

[*ochocincos*]

(09-24-2023, 10:53 PM)J24 Wrote: This isn't a knock on him or another lack of pass rush thread.

I have noticed around the league that other elite pass Rushers move around the line of scrimmage. So why don't we do that with Hendrickson? Can't we isolate him one on one with guards more often?

I would imagine that's a question for Anarumo.
He's the architect of the defense.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(10-11-2023, 03:33 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: … or Murphy.  I was so hoping they would go get a guy like Frank Clark, Yannick Ngakoue, Brandon Graham,Leonard Floyd, Melvin Ingram or Justin Houston.

Not all of them are being productive right now but Leonard Floyd is doing well in Buffalo.  Someone to help come in and close out drives/games.

Same here, was wanting a vet End this FA. Like you said in the FA forum, Melvin Ingram sure would make sense for us and he is 
on the street there to be had. Ingram would be just what we need right now while Ossai is banged up and Murphy is learning the 
NFL game as a pass rusher.

[Bengal Dude]

(10-09-2023, 04:48 AM)Earendil Wrote: Trey gets held out in the open, right in front of an official, and it doesn't get called. You could almost make a drinking game out of it.

The issue is that OL aren't going to be called for holding when the pass rusher uses a rip as his move. Trey uses that move the majority of the time, so the refs don't really give Trey the benefit when he bullrushes.

[Sled21]

(09-24-2023, 10:53 PM)J24 Wrote: This isn't a knock on him or another lack of pass rush thread.

I have noticed around the league that other elite pass Rushers move around the line of scrimmage. So why don't we do that with Hendrickson? Can't we isolate him one on one with guards more often?

I would guess that, at least to my eyes, Trey's game is using his speed and hands to get around a tackle and almost always comes at the QB from the side or from behind. Going through a guard requires more of a bull rush. I'm not sure that's his forte.

[Earendil]

(10-12-2023, 12:08 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: The issue is that OL aren't going to be called for holding when the pass rusher uses a rip as his move. Trey uses that move the majority of the time, so the refs don't really give Trey the benefit when he bullrushes.

I forgot that nuance to the rules. Thanks for the clarification.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(10-12-2023, 12:08 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: The issue is that OL aren't going to be called for holding when the pass rusher uses a rip as his move. Trey uses that move the majority of the time, so the refs don't really give Trey the benefit when he bullrushes.

As I noted in the other thread, he's ripping A LOT less this year and winning with speed/hand placement.

[*Synric*]

Trey is so clean as a rusher as Bengals Sans mentions zero wasted movement. Next Gen stats track the angle of pass rushers like they do WR routes and Trey is always in the top 5 with perfect angles around the edge.

Trey Hendrickson sack #2 comes off of a gritty bullrush through DJ Humphries chest. Love how he has no wasted movement. pic.twitter.com/oqMC1Le2wN

— mike (@bengals_sans) October 10, 2023

Trey Hendrickson misses the swipe but still wins the corner with his speed and rip move. Not just a sack but a strip sack as he knocks the ball free. pic.twitter.com/3bKpHmn6U8

— mike (@bengals_sans) October 10, 2023

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(10-13-2023, 02:02 PM)Synric Wrote: Trey is so clean as a rusher as Bengals Sans mentions zero wasted movement. Next Gen stats track the angle of pass rushers like they do WR routes and Trey is always in the top 5 with perfect angles around the edge.

Trey Hendrickson sack #2 comes off of a gritty bullrush through DJ Humphries chest. Love how he has no wasted movement. pic.twitter.com/oqMC1Le2wN

— mike (@bengals_sans) October 10, 2023

Trey Hendrickson misses the swipe but still wins the corner with his speed and rip move. Not just a sack but a strip sack as he knocks the ball free. pic.twitter.com/3bKpHmn6U8

— mike (@bengals_sans) October 10, 2023

Nice. Love how Trey takes angles and remains disciplined in his pass rush.

[Nicomo Cosca]

PFF Pass Rush Grade among edge defenders
(Factors in speed of wins, win rate, finishing plays, forced fumbles, drawing penalties, and more)

Myles Garrett 93.6
Nick Bosa 92.3
Trey Hendrickson 90.9
T.J. Watt 90.9
Micah Parsons 90.8
Maxx Crosby 90.7
Aidan Hutchinson 90.0

— Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) October 16, 2023

[Housh]

(10-16-2023, 12:49 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

PFF Pass Rush Grade among edge defenders
(Factors in speed of wins, win rate, finishing plays, forced fumbles, drawing penalties, and more)

Myles Garrett 93.6
Nick Bosa 92.3
Trey Hendrickson 90.9
T.J. Watt 90.9
Micah Parsons 90.8
Maxx Crosby 90.7
Aidan Hutchinson 90.0

— Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) October 16, 2023

At what point is he discussed with those top guys in a serious manner?

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

Another very good game from Trey. Dude is a beast.

[CJD]

(10-16-2023, 01:15 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Another very good game from Trey. Dude is a beast.

I'm surprised they only gave him 1 sack for that game. I could have sworn I saw him take Geno down at least twice, if not three times.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(10-16-2023, 01:23 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I'm surprised they only gave him 1 sack for that game. I could have sworn I saw him take Geno down at least twice, if not three times.

Same here. I thought Trey had at least a couple of Sacks. How many Sacks did we get total on Geno?

Thought it was at least 5 sacks in this one. Hubbard had one, BJ Hill had one, Logan had one, Trey had at least one, Dax Hill was in on one etc.

[CJD]

(10-16-2023, 01:37 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Same here. I thought Trey had at least a couple of Sacks. How many Sacks did we get total on Geno?

Thought it was at least 5 sacks in this one. Hubbard had one, BJ Hill had one, Logan had one, Trey had at least one, Dax Hill was in on one etc.

We apparently only got him 4 times.

Maybe they counted the 4th and goal sack as an incomplete pass? I thought it was a sack and fumble.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(10-16-2023, 01:40 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: We apparently only got him 4 times.

Maybe they counted the 4th and goal sack as an incomplete pass? I thought it was a sack and fumble.

Wild. We were all over Geno Smith in this one...

[J24]

(10-16-2023, 01:40 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: We apparently only got him 4 times.

Maybe they counted the 4th and goal sack as an incomplete pass? I thought it was a sack and fumble.

They did count it as a pass!

[J24]

(10-16-2023, 01:37 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Same here. I thought Trey had at least a couple of Sacks. How many Sacks did we get total on Geno?

Thought it was at least 5 sacks in this one. Hubbard had one, BJ Hill had one, Logan had one, Trey had at least one, Dax Hill was in on one etc.

Cam Sample had one two! He was an unsung hero against the Seahawks.