Posts: 19,289
Threads: 625
Reputation:
81884
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 20,227
Threads: 161
Reputation:
55344
Joined: May 2015
Location: Cincinnati
I read that as the league is made up of 31 really good defenses and one OK one.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
Posts: 8,472
Threads: 27
Reputation:
96276
Joined: May 2015
Sad and pathetic
yet feel they're much better
The water tastes funny when you're far from your home,
yet it's only the thirsty that hunger to roam.
Roam the Jungle !
Posts: 6,496
Threads: 107
Reputation:
47129
Joined: May 2016
I'm surprised by these stats as we have some talented players on the defense.
Posts: 18,989
Threads: 231
Reputation:
175712
Joined: May 2015
Not buying it. Now show where they rank high. You can't just focus on weaknesses without highlighting their strengths.
Posts: 8,635
Threads: 214
Reputation:
28725
Joined: May 2015
Location: Fredericksburg Virginia
10th in qb Rating, 9th in pass completion, 2nd in interceptions, 10th in QB hits, and 7th in turnovers. It's not all bad for the defense.
Posts: 2,095
Threads: 47
Reputation:
10476
Joined: Feb 2020
Bengals are #5 on the season in takeaways... they have been very opportunistic.
However this defense is absolutely trash the stats prove it. The turnovers are great but a very small part of the story.
I'm mostly talking about the secondary... not having Hubbard last two games killed us as well. Clearly Lou needs an amazing secondary for his scheme to work.
Posts: 1,005
Threads: 5
Reputation:
5447
Joined: Mar 2021
Location: Nyc
I don't think they're that bad. Rex Ryan was on ESPN Pregame with a devilish grin fantasizing about all the things we had planned for Stroud. "There's no one in the league better than Lou Anarumo!" That was just two weeks ago.
Posts: 14,870
Threads: 112
Reputation:
46406
Joined: May 2015
Location: Hyborea
The issues with tackling and explosive plays and rush defense have been going on all season. The turnovers have been saving the defense's bacon.
Posts: 512
Threads: 0
Reputation:
1952
Joined: Apr 2019
#s don't lie. The defense outside of the turnovers is really bad. The zone D gets gashed waaay too often. We also don't blitz much. DO SOMETHING to try & stop the gashing. Man D & blitz more.
Posts: 19,289
Threads: 625
Reputation:
81884
Joined: Oct 2016
We gave up A LOT of big plays against the Texans that I think skewed the numbers.
Posts: 5,948
Threads: 421
Reputation:
42295
Joined: May 2015
I don't think the defense is as bad as the numbers indicate. That Texans game was something though...
I don't think this defense is great, but I also don't think they are awful. I think they are average with a lot of young talent that is still learning what it takes to win and play in Lou's system. Giving up big plays are the growing pains this defense is going to have to live with when they chose to let quality vets walk and fill holes with sub par vets and rookies.
The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy
Posts: 35,619
Threads: 49
Reputation:
230295
Joined: May 2015
Location: Star Valley, Wyoming
Yes, as others said, it is somewhere in between. Not nearly as good as I thought we would be on Defense this year, especially
the tackling. And then when one of our players makes some great tackles the NFL wants to ban them lol
Seriously though, they need to first improve on tackling and then everything else will sort itself out. We have a lot of youth on
Defense, but we have some very good players. The Texans game as Pistons said was really bad and it made our Defense look bad
for the year.
I blame a lot of the early struggles on Burrow being hurt and always playing in the Shotgun with no running game or no effort to
establish one. Our Defense was on the field so much early on against great running teams. Our Defense is more like the one against
the 49ers when we are playing well. We still struggle against TE's as Kittle shown but we kept him out of the end zone and that is
what mattered.
One thing I have to add, if we are unable to keep Reader I am scared for the future unless we somehow bring in somebody that is
a game changing run stopping NT.
Posts: 20,421
Threads: 98
Reputation:
189149
Joined: May 2015
Location: Bluegrass Region
Just a little devil's advocate....the defense puts up bad numbers and Lou's still a genius and the unit isn't as bad as the numbers dictate. The offense struggles a bit, and it's worse than the numbers actually show and we should fire the coach.
"Better send those refunds..."
Posts: 35,619
Threads: 49
Reputation:
230295
Joined: May 2015
Location: Star Valley, Wyoming
(11-22-2023, 10:53 AM)Wyche Wrote: Just a little devil's advocate....the defense puts up bad numbers and Lou's still a genius and the unit isn't as bad as the numbers dictate. The offense struggles a bit, and it's worse than the numbers actually show and we should fire the coach.
Lol, true, I think we are harder on our Offense. Lou has a lot of work to do to get his Defense up to par though no question.
Posts: 4,615
Threads: 104
Reputation:
8446
Joined: Sep 2015
The D is the similar to the O
All sorts of crazy talent sprinkled in to a very mediocre group.
We usually rely on JB and Chase to just show up big and take over games.
We rely Trey, SamH and SamR —and pray for a couple of TO’s on D.
As a team - we are not good.
That’s kind of how this franchise has always been built though. Lol.
It’s the Jeff Blake to Carl Pickens Hail Mary approach or just hand it to Corey Dillon, etc.
Lots of frustrated sarcasm above but some truth to it.
Posts: 15,586
Threads: 160
Reputation:
21569
Joined: May 2015
(11-20-2023, 06:14 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote:
Bend and break Defense!
Posts: 16,765
Threads: 235
Reputation:
126774
Joined: Oct 2015
The uncomfortable reality of Lou's Bengals defenses...
2019: 25th scoring defense
2020: 22nd scoring defense
2021: 17th scoring defense
2022: 6th scoring defense
2023: 21st scoring defense
____________________________________________________________
Posts: 11,394
Threads: 19
Reputation:
77874
Joined: May 2015
Location: Where Mr. Kotter was before returning
(11-22-2023, 06:36 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: The uncomfortable reality of Lou's Bengals defenses...
2019: 25th scoring defense
2020: 22nd scoring defense
2021: 17th scoring defense
2022: 6th scoring defense
2023: 21st scoring defense
I feel like Lou's earned his good reputation among Bengals fans mostly due to some second half shut downs of KC. I feel like the unit as a whole has underachieved considering the money spent on that side of the ball the past 3 or 4 seasons.
I'm gonna break every record they've got. I'm tellin' you right now. I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but it's goin' to get done.
- Ja'Marr Chase
April 2021
Posts: 8,082
Threads: 95
Reputation:
21960
Joined: Nov 2015
The Defense has been bad in areas but so has the offense ratherly this year did we have solid games and many games we had terrible halves by each,
|