PFF Grades vs the Vikings

[Nicomo Cosca]

Highest PFF grades from the win over the Vikings

Offense
1) Browning, 80.8
2) Hudson, 80.1
3) Volson, 77.2
4) Higgins, 74.5
5) J. Williams, 70.8
* Wilcox with 17 snaps got a 87.4

Defense
1) Hilton, 92.8
2) Pratt, 92.0
3) Murphy, 74.1
4) Battle, 68.2
5) Carter, 66.5
* Sample on…

— Der German Tiger? (@DerGermanTiger) December 17, 2023

[Nicomo Cosca]

Those Hilton and Pratt grades are insane. :shocked:

[TheFan]

(12-17-2023, 03:01 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Highest PFF grades from the win over the Vikings

Offense
1) Browning, 80.8
2) Hudson, 80.1
3) Volson, 77.2
4) Higgins, 74.5
5) J. Williams, 70.8
* Wilcox with 17 snaps got a 87.4

Defense
1) Hilton, 92.8
2) Pratt, 92.0
3) Murphy, 74.1
4) Battle, 68.2
5) Carter, 66.5
* Sample on…

— Der German Tiger? (@DerGermanTiger) December 17, 2023

Good for Miles, I'm glad his score reflected what I felt like I saw from his play yesterday. He made a lot of plays and seemed like one of the better defensive players on the field. 

[Science Friction]

My God, what would Pratt's grade have been if the Pick Six had stood?

[sandwedge]

What's going on with Wilson? He has pretty much disappeared after the Baltimore game and was accused of hurting players with his tackling....

[jj22]

(12-17-2023, 03:37 PM)Science Friction Wrote: My God, what would Pratt's grade have been if the Pick Six had stood?

Probably 62.3 knowing PFF. 

[*pally*]

(12-17-2023, 04:03 PM)sandwedge Wrote: What's going on with Wilson? He has pretty much disappeared after the Baltimore game and was accused of hurting players with his tackling....

he has had 35 tackles in the last 4 games

[sandwedge]

(12-17-2023, 04:09 PM)pally Wrote: he has had 35 tackles in the last 4 games

I have hardly heard his name mentioned on the radio.

[WeezyBengal]

(12-17-2023, 04:03 PM)sandwedge Wrote: What's going on with Wilson? He has pretty much disappeared after the Baltimore game and was accused of hurting players with his tackling....

I think Logan is banged up. He was on the injury report a few weeks back with a bum ankle (I think). I think he's really fighting something and it's struggling with coverage. 

[SunsetBengal]

Nice to see Cordell Volson leading the way on the OL grades and happy to see Carter making the top 5 on defense. With Reader done for the year, we're going to need for Josh Tupou to have some monster games down the stretch.

[CJD]

(12-17-2023, 03:37 PM)Science Friction Wrote: My God, what would Pratt's grade have been if the Pick Six had stood?

I have no idea how PFF grading works, but sometimes I wonder if they grade plays that were negated by a penalty that was iffy and/or did not impact the player being graded or the play he made. Because 92.0 is a wildly high score, I assumed they "graded" the pick six since it wasn't his fault that it was negated.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(12-18-2023, 11:16 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Nice to see Cordell Volson leading the way on the OL grades and happy to see Carter making the top 5 on defense. With Reader done for the year, we're going to need for Josh Tupou to have some monster games down the stretch.

And Tufele: he will be in Tupou's role going forward, IMO.

(12-18-2023, 11:48 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: I have no idea how PFF grading works, but sometimes I wonder if they grade plays that were negated by a penalty that was iffy and/or did not impact the player being graded or the play he made. Because 92.0 is a wildly high score, I assumed they "graded" the pick six since it wasn't his fault that it was negated.

Correct.

No stats get recorded, but the grade still is affected.

[*rfaulk34*]

Has anyone pointed out yet how Zach Carter got off on the snap and pushed the center back into Mullens to thwart the 4th down tush push in OT?

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(12-17-2023, 03:37 PM)Science Friction Wrote: My God, what would Pratt's grade have been if the Pick Six had stood?

100

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(12-18-2023, 12:17 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Has anyone pointed out yet how Zach Carter got off on the snap and pushed the center back into Mullens to thwart the 4th down tush push in OT?

I think pally noted that in another thread. Lowest of the low on that play. 

[HarleyDog]

I'm calling another pick 6 from Hilton on Saturday.

[*ochocincos*]

Hudson needs just 2 yards to hit the 300 mark on the season.
I fully expect he'll be around 350 by the end of the season.

He has 33 receptions for 298 yards in just 9 games. Averaging 33.1 yards per game.
If he had been playing in this role all year, he'd have about 550-575 yards in a whole season.

Hudson needs to be signed to a new contract.

[Frank Booth]

(12-18-2023, 01:15 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Hudson needs just 2 yards to hit the 300 mark on the season.
I fully expect he'll be around 350 by the end of the season.

He has 33 receptions for 298 yards in just 9 games. Averaging 33.1 yards per game.
If he had been playing in this role all year, he'd have about 550-575 yards in a whole season.

Hudson needs to be signed to a new contract.

I hope they re-sign him but I also think there’s gonna be a desperate team that will offer him something bigger than what Mikey will

[*pally*]

so does Jonah Williams get a new contract as a RT or does he test the market to see what he can get as a left tackle? His versatility will be attractive to a bunch of teams

[*ochocincos*]

(12-18-2023, 01:24 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: I hope they re-sign him but I also think there’s gonna be a desperate team that will offer him something bigger than what Mikey will

Possibly.

Right now, Hudson is 26th among TEs in receiving yards.
There are already 14 TEs above 490 yards.
So Hudson is probably safely in the middle-of-the-pack category if he had been playing all year like he has been.

In all reality, a middle-of-the-pack TE is making around $8 mill APY.
I could maybe see in best-case scenario a team offering him around $6-8 mill, but would the Bengals be one of those teams, to your point?
I would expect they wouldn't go that high, but I could see them maybe going something like what Moreau got from the Saints at $4 mill APY.