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DJ jogging on a treadmill about 10 weeks out from surgery is probabaly amazing news. He was running in a wave pool last week. Looks like he could be ready for September.
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(03-07-2024, 10:55 PM)pally Wrote: He was released outright. He was not a free agent on an expiring contract. Those contracts don't officially expire until 4:00 PM Mar 13. Anyone already on the street can be signed
Yes, I am seeing that everywhere now. Miami signed a TE (Smith) for two years, after he was released by Atlanta. Patriots sign the OT Okorofor. Both might have fit Bengals needs. And it does mean that there are a number of free agents available to be signed right now that might fit the Bengals needs, such as the veteran safeties Simmons and Poyer, and centers Mitch Moore and Cody Whitehair. I imagine teams are already negotiating with them. I hope the Bengals are at least in the mix for Simmons.
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(03-08-2024, 08:27 AM)Synric Wrote: DJ jogging on a treadmill about 10 weeks out from surgery is probabaly amazing news. He was running in a wave pool last week. Looks like he could be ready for September.
That is incredible progress on the rehab, especially considering the perceived severity of the injury at the time of the incident. Here's to hoping he get's signed back with the Bengals, and they go onto draft T'Vondre Sweat as his heir apparent.
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(03-08-2024, 09:45 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: That is incredible progress on the rehab, especially considering the perceived severity of the injury at the time of the incident. Here's to hoping he get's signed back with the Bengals, and they go onto draft T'Vondre Sweat as his heir apparent.
DJ said in an interview that this injury was not as bad as the torn quad from his first season with the team
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(03-08-2024, 09:49 AM)pally Wrote: DJ said in an interview that this injury was not as bad as the torn quad from his first season with the team
That seems like something that most any true competitor would say. However upon seeing the progress of his rehab to this point, his statement becomes much more of a reality than just some words to give the fans hope.
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(03-08-2024, 08:27 AM)Synric Wrote: DJ jogging on a treadmill about 10 weeks out from surgery is probabaly amazing news. He was running in a wave pool last week. Looks like he could be ready for September.
Thanks for this. Indeed that is good news. The price tag might be going up accordingly.
I can almost put my Reader + DT + Onwenu + vet S in the pipe dream category. But favorable DJ terms, the DT being Williams, the glut of S's, and maybe freeing up sone $$ with restructures keep it barely alive.
But I think Reader + DT + vet S should be the priority. Get that right and go from there.
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With Johnson & Dotson signed.
Signed:
1. Johnson, CB, Chi, 4 yrs/76 mil
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13. Evans, WR, TB, 2 yrs/$52 mil
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27. Dotson, G, Rams, 3 yrs/$48 mil
33. Schultz, TE, Hou, 3 yr/36 mil
Tagged:
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3. Burns, DE, Panthers, $24 mil.
4. Allen, DE, Jags, $24 mil
6. Madubuike, DT, Ravens, $22.1 mil
7. Higgins, WR, Bengals, $21.8 mil.
9. Winfield, S, TB, $17.123 mil
10. Sneed, CB, KC, $19.8 mil.
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14. Pittman, WR, Colts, $21.8 mil
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25. Dugger, S, NE, $13.8 Transition
Available atm:
1. Jones, DT, KC
2. Cousins, QB, Min
5. Wilkins, DT, Miami
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11. Greenard, Edge, Hou
12. Hunter, DE, Minny
15. McKinney, S, NYG
16. Queen, LB, Ravens
17. Ridley, WR, Jax
18. L. Williams, DT, Sea
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19. Mayfield, QB, TB
20. Brown, WR, Arizona
21. Barkley, RB, NYG, No Tag
22. Young, DE, 49ers
23. Huff, DE, Jets
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24. Hunt, G, Miami
26. Jackson, G, Det
28. Onwenu, G/T, NE
29. Luvu, LB, Car
30. Jacobs, RB, LV
31. J. Williams, OT, Bengals
32. Brooks, LB, Sea
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TE Hunter Henry back with NE. 3 year deal. $27 mil total.
BTW, they also signed RT Okorafor, who was with Pitt, for $4 mil. That seems to indicate Onwenu is on his way out.
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I think the Bengals need to nail their pick at 18 and make at least one solid free agent pickup. I’ve maintained for weeks they should re-sign Reader to a friendly deal. But they need a big time pass rushing DT. They need to go with a solid offensive tackle in the first round. It’s a good draft for OL. Now the question becomes? Do they cover themselves in free agency by getting a medium priced DT & RT instead of top ones like Wilkins and Chris Jones? It would be nice if we were lucky enough for Brock Bowers or a great safety or running back was there. I believe getting a middle priced DT and RT is the way to go. It gives us flexibility.
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(03-08-2024, 08:27 AM)Synric Wrote: DJ jogging on a treadmill about 10 weeks out from surgery is probabaly amazing news. He was running in a wave pool last week. Looks like he could be ready for September.
Holy shit, didn't expect this at all. This is extraordinary news, pay the man!!!
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(03-08-2024, 08:27 AM)Synric Wrote: DJ jogging on a treadmill about 10 weeks out from surgery is probabaly amazing news. He was running in a wave pool last week. Looks like he could be ready for September.
It is great news. I hope we can come to a mutually beneficial contract; he was a key to our DL run defense.
2024 may go on record as one of most underperforming teams in Bengal history. Bengal's FO has major work to do on defensive side of the ball. I say tag and trade Tee Higgins in 2025 to start with the rebuild.
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Steeler release CB Patrick Peterson. He is 33 now. It shouod be noted he moved to S at the end of last year.
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Compensation Picks announced Bengals will receive two 6th round picks (208, 214). They kinda got screwed over on the Vonn Bell comp pick but got a slight raise from the Samaje Perine/Nick Scott deals. Bengals should have gotten pick 175 over the 49ers.
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Just speculating but it looks like he’s lost some weight. He’s motivated. Not that he’s not always been but he’s playing for a contract and he wants it to be here. I’m confident that the Bengals for a variety of reasons are desired spot. A desired spot for free agents,draftees, coaches, and current players wanting to stay. The culture is sure paying dividends
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The last two drafts have not been great as this would be the time where we should have built a sturdy foundation where we can use the comp pick philosophy by just adding cap casualty cut veterans looking to get a ring on 1 year deals, while losing players we expected to lose that were replaced (legitimately) by draft picks).
However we, because of the last two drafts, are stuck filling significant holes (DT, WR, Oline, Dline, CB, S, TE, RB) that theoretically a team "on the cusp" shouldn't have.
It's painful but we've taken steps back. We need to nail this draft.
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For what its worth, The Athletic's Paul Dehner did a 53 man projection including FA and draft picks.
https://theathletic.com/5324461/2024/03/08/bengals-53-man-roster-projection-2024/?source=emp_shared_article&access_token=2556982&redirected=1
Quarterbacks (2)
Starter: Joe Burrow
Backup: Jake Browning
Running backs (4)
Starter: Zack Moss (FA, Colts)
Complement: Chase Brown
3DRB: Clyde Edwards-Helaire (FA, Chiefs)
Rookie: Isaac Guerendo (Louisville, fifth round)
Wide receivers (6)
Starters: Ja’Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, Ricky Pearsall (Florida, second round)
Backups: Andrei Iosivas, Charlie Jones, Trenton Irwin
Tight ends (4)
Starter: Hayden Hurst (FA, Panthers)
Backups: Drew Sample, Tanner Hudson, Ben Sinnott (Kansas State, fourth round)
Offensive line (9)
Starters: LT Orlando Brown Jr., LG Cordell Volson, C Ted Karras, RG Alex Cappa, RT Mekhi Becton (FA, Jets)
Backups: OT JC Latham (Alabama, first round), OL Cody Ford, C/G Drake Nugent (Michigan, fifth round-comp), OL Jaxson Kirkland
Defensive line (10)
Starters: Edges Trey Hendrickson, Sam Hubbard, 3T B.J. Hill, DT DJ Reader
Backups: Myles Murphy, Joseph Ossai, Cam Sample, Teair Tart (FA, Texans), Kris Jenkins (Michigan, third round), Justin Rogers (Auburn, sixth round)
Linebackers (5)
Starters: Logan Wilson, Germaine Pratt
Backups: Akeem Davis-Gaither, Markus Bailey, Darius Muasau (UCLA, seventh round)
Cornerbacks (6)
Starters: Cam Taylor-Britt, DJ Turner, Mike Hilton
Backups: Dax Hill, DJ Ivey, Kristian Fulton (FA, Titans)
Safeties (4)
Starters: Darnell Savage (FA, Packers), Jordan Battle
Backups: Nick Scott, Tycen Anderson
Specialists (3)
Starters: K Evan McPherson, LS Cal Adomitis, P Tommy Townsend ( FA, KC)
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I actually like Dehner's FA and a lot of the Draft there, the only thing is we are not keeping Nick Scott after last year.
We need to get a better RT than Becton and we cannot rely on DJ Reader being healthy by the opener even if things are looking
much better with him jogging. We need to add at least 2 DT's this Offseason for depth at the very least. I like Kris Jenkins the
Draft pick, but we need a FA DT. I really like Pearsall the WR from Florida, Sinnott is my 2nd favorite TE for us, getting Latham
is great in case Becton sucks.
I like a lot of what he says here, thanks Pally.
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(03-08-2024, 07:13 PM)pally Wrote: For what its worth, The Athletic's Paul Dehner did a 53 man projection including FA and draft picks.
https://theathletic.com/5324461/2024/03/08/bengals-53-man-roster-projection-2024/?source=emp_shared_article&access_token=2556982&redirected=1
Quarterbacks (2)
Starter: Joe Burrow
Backup: Jake Browning
Running backs (4)
Starter: Zack Moss (FA, Colts)
Complement: Chase Brown
3DRB: Clyde Edwards-Helaire (FA, Chiefs)
Rookie: Isaac Guerendo (Louisville, fifth round)
Wide receivers (6)
Starters: Ja’Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, Ricky Pearsall (Florida, second round)
Backups: Andrei Iosivas, Charlie Jones, Trenton Irwin
Tight ends (4)
Starter: Hayden Hurst (FA, Panthers)
Backups: Drew Sample, Tanner Hudson, Ben Sinnott (Kansas State, fourth round)
Offensive line (9)
Starters: LT Orlando Brown Jr., LG Cordell Volson, C Ted Karras, RG Alex Cappa, RT Mekhi Becton (FA, Jets)
Backups: OT JC Latham (Alabama, first round), OL Cody Ford, C/G Drake Nugent (Michigan, fifth round-comp), OL Jaxson Kirkland
Defensive line (10)
Starters: Edges Trey Hendrickson, Sam Hubbard, 3T B.J. Hill, DT DJ Reader
Backups: Myles Murphy, Joseph Ossai, Cam Sample, Teair Tart (FA, Texans), Kris Jenkins (Michigan, third round), Justin Rogers (Auburn, sixth round)
Linebackers (5)
Starters: Logan Wilson, Germaine Pratt
Backups: Akeem Davis-Gaither, Markus Bailey, Darius Muasau (UCLA, seventh round)
Cornerbacks (6)
Starters: Cam Taylor-Britt, DJ Turner, Mike Hilton
Backups: Dax Hill, DJ Ivey, Kristian Fulton (FA, Titans)
Safeties (4)
Starters: Darnell Savage (FA, Packers), Jordan Battle
Backups: Nick Scott, Tycen Anderson
Specialists (3)
Starters: K Evan McPherson, LS Cal Adomitis, P Tommy Townsend ( FA, KC)
To sum up.
FA's Re-signed: Higgins, Reader, C. Sample, Hudson, Ford, ADG, Bailey, Irwin, Browning, Adomitis, Kirkland.
New FAs: Moss (RB), Becton (OT), Hurst (TE), Savage (S), Townsend (P), Fulton (CB), Tart (DT), Edwards-Helaire (RB).
Draft:
1st: Latham, OT
2nd: Pearsall, WR
3rd: Jenkins, DT
4th: Sinnott, TE
5th: Guerrero, RB
5th Comp: Nugent, IOL
6th: Rogers, DT
7th: Mausau, LB, 7th
Other comp: not listed or I missed it.
The draft isn't awful, though Jenkins will be long gone by the 3rd and likely Sinnott by the 4th.
The guys we bring back are solid.
The outside FAs make me throw up in my mouth. Becton & Fulton & CEH are awful.
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Becton's best season was the one he had with Frank Pollack as his line coach
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I wouldn't be shocked if we bring Lael Collins back.
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