Bengals sign Moss, Cut Mixon

[WeezyBengal]

(03-12-2024, 10:59 AM)Joelist Wrote: We went from the worst YAC back in the league who almost never made the first defender miss or broke a tackle to one of the best at exactly those items (I think Mo Egger noted he ranked 5th in the league in yards over expectation). He is a hard to bring down power runner who works very well inside, is a good pass blocker and thrives in short yardage down and distance. We're getting him at age 26 but more importantly without a lot of wear on the treads. This is an upgrade at RB flat out and a better fit for the scheme to boot.

Not to mention he could solve one of our biggest issues..short yardage conversions. 

[pulses]

(03-12-2024, 08:19 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: read somewhere hes decent at pass pro

Mixon had like a 29 grade in pass pro and Moss was like a 64

[pulses]

(03-12-2024, 10:35 AM)kalibengal Wrote: 223? I looked him up and he was 5-9, 205?

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/zack-moss 223 here

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-12-2024, 10:09 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Zack Moss in 2023:

4.3 YPC
793 rushing yards
64.8% of total yards after contact
36 missed tackles forced
65.5 pass-blocking grade (11th among RBs)

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— PFF CIN Bengals (@PFF_Bengals) March 12, 2024

The YAC is a big one. You can knock Mixon over with a feather.

No doubt. Zack Moss is a major upgrade in yards after contact and is a much better pass protector.

Mixon's balance was also sub par here. We are upgraded in everything but ball security and pass catching and Moss hasn't been bad 
in these areas either.

[Millhouse]

This is definitely a good move by the Bengals and the backfield should be quite better next season overall.

[SouthernStripes]

Quote:Source to @BleacherReport: The #Texans traded a 7th-round pick to the #Bengals for Pro Bowl RB Joe Mixon.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-12-2024, 01:16 AM)pulses Wrote: small back?  Zack Moss 5'9 223  Joe Mixon 6'1 220  4 inches in height is the difference....thats IT.

Moss is down to 205 lbs now.

[Soonerpeace]

Zack Moss generated a league-high +139 rushing yards over expected on shotgun runs in 11 personnel last season.

Moss is now set to join a Bengals team that ran the ball on 32.6% of their shotgun plays from 11 personnel in 2023, the 5th-highest rate in the NFL.#RuleTheJungle https://t.co/fpIsA7GEpx

— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) March 12, 2024

[SunsetBengal]

(03-12-2024, 02:43 PM)pulses Wrote: https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/zack-moss 223 here

(03-12-2024, 05:44 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Moss is down to 205 lbs now.

I wonder if the 205 was his "official" weight coming into the draft and the 223 is what he currently plays at?

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-12-2024, 06:32 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote:

Zack Moss generated a league-high +139 rushing yards over expected on shotgun runs in 11 personnel last season.

Moss is now set to join a Bengals team that ran the ball on 32.6% of their shotgun plays from 11 personnel in 2023, the 5th-highest rate in the NFL.#RuleTheJungle https://t.co/fpIsA7GEpx

— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) March 12, 2024

Awesome, so he is great at running out of the Shotgun too?

This pickup just gets better and better.

[pulses]

(03-12-2024, 08:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I wonder if the 205 was his "official" weight coming into the draft and the 223 is what he currently plays at?

That's what I think because he looks a lot bigger than 205.

[depthchart]

(03-12-2024, 08:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I wonder if the 205 was his "official" weight coming into the draft and the 223 is what he currently plays at?

(03-12-2024, 08:31 PM)pulses Wrote: That's what I think because he looks a lot bigger than 205.

223 was his Combine weight.

[SunsetBengal]

(03-12-2024, 08:36 PM)depthchart Wrote: 223 was his Combine weight.

You are exactly correct.  I didn't even think to check his draft profile, wish that I had earlier as it's pretty good.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zack-moss/32004d4f-5375-6406-2efb-a60ab36c4cc4

[*ochocincos*]

(03-12-2024, 08:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I wonder if the 205 was his "official" weight coming into the draft and the 223 is what he currently plays at?

Swap it.
He was in the 220's going into the draft and he was most recently listed at 205 as of last year.
He looks bigger than 205 because he's so short.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-12-2024, 08:47 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Swap it.
He was in the 220's going into the draft and he was most recently listed at 205 as of last year.
He looks bigger than 205 because he's so short.

Yeah, he is even shorter than Perine, nothing wrong with that though. Shorter RB's are hard to see behind big OL's.

[depthchart]

(03-12-2024, 08:47 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Swap it.
He was in the 220's going into the draft and he was most recently listed at 205 as of last year.
He looks bigger than 205 because he's so short.

FWIW I heard an Analyst on TV today say that Moss was playing at 212 pounds. (I forget which Analyst said it)

The thing about the Combine weight is that players usually want to do well in the 40 so they probably get in 

Great shape to test well and there he was 223.

[Soonerpeace]

(03-12-2024, 08:15 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Awesome, so he is great at running out of the Shotgun too?

This pickup just gets better and better.

Yes

[*pally*]

Moss, says he is a down hill runner who loves coming out of the shotgun, The marriage with Cincinnati seemed natural on that basis alone.

Surprisingly, he has yet to hear from JoeyB

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-14-2024, 04:41 PM)pally Wrote: Moss, says he is a down hill runner who loves coming out of the shotgun,  The marriage with Cincinnati seemed natural on that basis alone.  

Surprisingly, he has yet to hear from JoeyB

JoeyB will talk to him soon I am sure. This is the perfect RB for what he likes to do. But I do hope he took notes of how unpredictable 
the Offense was when he was out and Browning was in playing under Center. But the thing was, Mixon wasn't good at all running out of
the Shotgun, so we should be more unpredictable right there with an actual threat at RB in Moss.

[coachmcneil71]

(03-14-2024, 04:41 PM)pally Wrote: Moss, says he is a down hill runner who loves coming out of the shotgun,  The marriage with Cincinnati seemed natural on that basis alone.  

Surprisingly, he has yet to hear from JoeyB

Yeah, his media interview was superb! He was articulate and communicated very well.

Not going to pile on JMix because he definitely done some good things here, but he always sounded like a grown teenager in his pressers.

Moss sounds like a grown ass man that wants to win and has already watched some Bengal RB tape. He mentioned that there are/were holes that could be exploited. That's a nod to making the first defender miss and taking it for a strut. We been missing that first part much too often.