Reds May 2024 thread

[Timanky12]

(05-13-2024, 10:50 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Candelario: $15m/yr  (90 OPS+, -0.1 bWAR)
Martinez: $13m/yr (88 ERA+, 0.2 bWAR)
Pagan: $8m/yr (87 ERA+, 0.0 bWAR)

$36m/yr and 10% below league average is the best of the three and you've gotten a combined 0.1 WAR in 40 games.

Mookie Betts signed a couple years ago for $30.4m/yr. Juan Soto signed for $31m/yr.

The Reds can afford the best hitters in the game, they just choose to spend it on 3 bad players instead. They don't lack money, they lack competence....... Last year they spent $29.5m on Mike Moustakas and Wil Meyers (total of -0.6 bWAR for the Reds). The year before that they spent $40.5m on Mike Moustakas, Mike Minor, Shogo Akiyama, and Tommy Pham (total of -0.9 bWAR). That's $106m over the last 3 years contributing a current total of -1.4 bWAR instead of just 1 of the best hitters in baseball.

All goes back to incompetence, they don’t know what they are doing and their assessments of players is horrible.

[Timanky12]

The Reds are 24th in pitching era, 29 in batting average and 24th in fielding errors.

You couldn’t find a positive here, even if you tried. Just bad all the way around.

[Timanky12]

Only thing the Reds are good at is stealing bases, unfortunately, you can’t steal first.

[*bengalfan74*]

(05-13-2024, 12:10 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: The Reds are 24th in pitching era, 29 in batting average and 24th in fielding errors.

You couldn’t find a positive here, even if you tried. Just bad all the way around.

YEP

The Reds are now 1-9 in May. Since sweeping Angels in mid/late April they're 5- 14 !!  They're 17-23 on the season getting well below .500 and 7 games out of first.

They're digging a hole that's going to be very hard to get out of unless they turn it around now. And with this road stretch and all the games with the Dodgers ahead 

Good luck with that

[kevin]

As bad as it looks, if you were a manager. You would have to say the team did have 16 wins at end of April. OK, so far a bad May. Probably can't get 15 wins in May. Can my team get 10 win. Of course, in order to get to 10, they have to get to 5 first. Reds need to string some wins together to get tp 5 wins and then shoot for 10 in May. I doubt they will have 30 wins at end of May, but how close can they get to 30. The Reds are starting to get injured hitters back. Reds manager and players need to salvage some of this month and make a push at trying to get to 5 wins, and then shoot for 10 wins on the month. 15 is probably not possible now. Do the best they can in May, and hope they have a hot month later to make up for May. If you were manager, you would have to think in terms of winning games in May, not throwing in the towel.

[Timanky12]

(05-13-2024, 01:42 PM)kevin Wrote: As bad as it looks, if you were a manager.  You would have to say the team did have 16 wins at end of April.  OK, so far a bad May.  Probably can't get 15 wins in May.  Can my team get 10 win.  Of course, in order to get to 10, they have to get to 5 first.  Reds need to string some wins together to get tp 5 wins and then shoot for 10 in May.  I doubt they will have 30 wins at end of May, but how close can they get to 30.  The Reds are starting to get injured hitters back.  Reds manager and players need to salvage some of this month and make a push at trying to get to 5 wins, and then shoot for 10 wins on the month.  15 is probably not possible now.  Do the best they can in May, and hope they have a hot month later to make up for May.  If you were manager, you would have to think in terms of winning games in May, not throwing in the towel.

They have no chance to get 10 wins in May, they will be lucky to get 6 or 7 wins.We  have 7 games against the dodgers, no wins there, that leaves the remaining 10 games to get 9 wins, impossible.

[*bengalfan74*]

(05-13-2024, 03:16 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: They have no chance to get 10 wins in May, they will be lucky to get 6 or 7 wins.We  have 7 games against the dodgers, no wins there, that leaves the remaining 10 games to get 9 wins, impossible.

Right

To have any chance of staying in this thing they need to go on like a 11-4 run. They're waaayyyy more likey to post a 4-11 run. And if they do they're going to be all but out of it before June - again.

[cinci4life]

(05-13-2024, 12:30 AM)kevin Wrote: The games may have been winnable, but the bullpen keeps blowing games. 

Maybe we are both right.  Both the hitting and the pitching are awful.  In Fantasy Leagues, the only Reds pitcher worth having is Hunter Greene so far.   As for hitters, De La Cruz and Steer are worth having, none of the rest.  So Reds have 3 good players this year, which is far from a solid team. 

Of the 23 loses the bullpen has 8 losses and the starters 15 loses. Most of the time when the starter is pulled we don't have a lead to begin with especially as of late. The starters have done enough to keep it close enough to win but the offense just hasn't shown up.

[cinci4life]

Friedl is back on the IL with a fractured thumb. Jacob Hurtubise a been called up from Louisville.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/05/reds-place-tj-friedl-on-injured-list-with-thumb-fracture.html

[samhain]

(05-13-2024, 10:50 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Candelario: $15m/yr  (90 OPS+, -0.1 bWAR)
Martinez: $13m/yr (88 ERA+, 0.2 bWAR)
Pagan: $8m/yr (87 ERA+, 0.0 bWAR)

$36m/yr and 10% below league average is the best of the three and you've gotten a combined 0.1 WAR in 40 games.

Mookie Betts signed a couple years ago for $30.4m/yr. Juan Soto signed for $31m/yr.

The Reds can afford the best hitters in the game, they just choose to spend it on 3 bad players instead. They don't lack money, they lack competence....... Last year they spent $29.5m on Mike Moustakas and Wil Meyers (total of -0.6 bWAR for the Reds). The year before that they spent $40.5m on Mike Moustakas, Mike Minor, Shogo Akiyama, and Tommy Pham (total of -0.9 bWAR). That's $106m over the last 3 years contributing a current total of -1.4 bWAR instead of just 1 of the best hitters in baseball.

Could've had a year of Teoscar Hernandez for 23 million in place of Pagan and Candelario.  That would just make too much sense.

[samhain]

(05-13-2024, 05:50 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Right

To have any chance of staying in this thing they need to go on like a 11-4 run. They're waaayyyy more likey to post a 4-11 run. And if they do they're going to be all but out of it before June - again.

You never know, but this team looks cooked.  Thought thing to say in May, but the offense just isn't scoring.  They'll need a hell of a June-July run to dig out of the hole they dig through May.

[CJD]

Friedl is back on the IL.

I think this just isn't our year. We've gone the entire year without our starting CF, our starting 3B, our starting 2B and our starting 1B was playing with a fracture before getting a second fracture.

They could still break off a big winning streak once they get through this brutal west coast road trip (the next 4 series are against the Cardinals, Cubs, Rockies and Cubs), but with the injuries they're dealing with, I don't know if this offense is capable of consistently producing.

[cinci4life]

How many times are the umps gonna screw us on the check swing appeals?

[Nicomo Cosca]

Crazy game.

[cinci4life]

You had a feeling someone was getting tossed before the game ended.

[Nicomo Cosca]

[cinci4life]

Offense shows up and the pitching goes to hell. Hard to win anything when you score to take a lead and promptly give the runs right back.

[*bengalfan74*]

Yep. it's just not our year. I'm going to say 70-75 wins is ceiling.

[*bengalfan74*]

2013, the last decent season we had - 90 wins.

Since then: We've averaged 71.5 wins a season. We've finished above .500 twice sine 2013 (2020 omitted)

2021 - 83 wins 2023 - 82 wins. So both just barely. We lost 100 games in 2022, and been damn close in four other seasons finishing above 90 loses.

And this season, baring a major turnaround, which is fairly unlikely with all our injuries and pitching issues. We'll finish well below .500 again.

Sell the team Bob

[The D.O.Z.]

They bought a whole summer's worth of fans' money last year with the rookie call-ups. I wonder what their ploy will be THIS summer, when they're already "out of it" by June. Dunk-booth with Phil? Analytics-ran soothsayer booth with DumBell? Another "concert" with "artists" that haven't been relative since 2003?

I don't even want any of our Bengals going over there to toss first-pitches for fear they'll catch the RedsPox, ending their season before it even starts!