(10-18-2024, 12:49 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: For anyone who wants to believe coaching doesn't really really matter. Rookie 12th overall pick QB, Courtlan Sutton and Josh Reynolds are their #1 and #2 WRs, and $79.3m in dead cap space (they've basically only been able to spend ~2/3rds of a normal salary cap).... and the Broncos are 4-3.
Broncos also have a Top 5 defense.
The offense is still under middle of the pack.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: 3-5 so far. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
(10-18-2024, 03:39 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: They caught Tampa in a trap game with a bunch of injuries on D and they've beaten other shitty teams. They're a .500 team at the very best.
Kinda what they showed last night. All I'd seen up to that point was "highlights", of which there wasn't very much....lol.
(10-11-2024, 11:22 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: This is gonna take a while so let's start with 2020. Also, keep in mind. These are all close losses to see what Burrow did in those games at the end. I guess after this i'll go back and highlight the GWD as well.
1st game - drives the team down and has a TD pass called back for OPI. Kicker misses a chip shot to tie it with :02 left.
2nd game - Final drive they were down 12 after the defense failed to stop the Browns after the Bengals pulled to within 23-28 with 5:55 in the game on a Burrow TD pass.
3rd game - Speaks for itself in the description above. Throws a game sealing INT with 1/2 minute left.
4th game - Defense gave up lead with :11 seconds after Burrow TD pass with 1:06 left in the game took the lead.
2020 - That's 3 clutch, 1 no clutch----2 team fails, 1 Burrow fail and 1 defecit greater than 1 score on last drive.
1st game - down 2 tds with 6:40 left. Gets to within 3 and D missed a chance at a sack on 3rd down for a chance at a GWD.
2nd game - mixed bag. Gets team in FG range twice, missed FG both times. Throws INT in OT.
3rd game - throws INT that leads to Jets lead then gets sacked on 3rd down before Jets run out clock.
4th game - Infamous conservative play calling in OT. Leads team to tying TD late with clutch passes then gets close in OT before 2 runs and a sack on 3rd down. SF wins game on next drive with TD.
5th game - Super Bowl. Failed to add to lead in 4th and gets the ball back with 1:25. Hits a couple passes then a failed run on 3rd and 1 and a quick sack while Ja'Marr was wide open down the right sideline.
2021 - That's 3 clutch, 2 no clutch----3 team fails, 1 clear Burrow fail in NYJ and a 50/50 team/Burrow fail in the SB.
2020/2021 -- 6 clutch, 3 no clutch
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
(10-11-2024, 11:22 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: This is gonna take a while so let's start with 2020. Also, keep in mind. These are all close losses to see what Burrow did in those games at the end. I guess after this i'll go back and highlight the GWD as well.
1st game - drives the team down and has a TD pass called back for OPI. Kicker misses a chip shot to tie it with :02 left.
2nd game - Final drive they were down 12 after the defense failed to stop the Browns after the Bengals pulled to within 23-28 with 5:55 in the game on a Burrow TD pass.
3rd game - Speaks for itself in the description above. Throws a game sealing INT with 1/2 minute left.
4th game - Defense gave up lead with :11 seconds after Burrow TD pass with 1:06 left in the game took the lead.
2020 - That's 3 clutch, 1 no clutch----2 team fails, 1 Burrow fail and 1 defecit greater than 1 score on last drive.
(10-24-2024, 12:31 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote:
1st game - down 2 tds with 6:40 left. Gets to within 3 and D missed a chance at a sack on 3rd down for a chance at a GWD.
2nd game - mixed bag. Gets team in FG range twice, missed FG both times. Throws INT in OT.
3rd game - throws INT that leads to Jets lead then gets sacked on 3rd down before Jets run out clock.
4th game - Infamous conservative play calling in OT. Leads team to tying TD late with clutch passes then gets close in OT before 2 runs and a sack on 3rd down. SF wins game on next drive with TD.
5th game - Super Bowl. Failed to add to lead in 4th and gets the ball back with 1:25. Hits a couple passes then a failed run on 3rd and 1 and a quick sack while Ja'Marr was wide open down the right sideline.
2021 - That's 3 clutch, 2 no clutch----3 team fails, 1 clear Burrow fail in NYJ and a 50/50 team/Burrow fail in the SB.
2020/2021 -- 6 clutch, 3 no clutch
2022 i don't need to type all out.
1st game - vs Pitt. Throws TD pass as time expires to tie. XP blocked. Missed FG in OT
2nd game - vs Dallas. Completes three 3rd downs and one 4th down. Throws TD pass and 2pt conversion to tie it. Defense give up game on last second FG.
3rd game - vs Balt. Drives team down and scores go ahead rushing TD with 1:56 left. Defense gives up game on last second FG.
4th game - vs KC in AFCCG. Fails to drive the team to go ahead TD/FG after 3rd down sack. Defense gives up game on last second FG.
2022 - That's 3 clutch, 1 no clutch----3 team fails, 1 Burrow fail.
2020/2021/2022 -- 9 clutch, 4 no clutch.
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
One thing that's frustrating is when he fails, there were options. I know i know, no one is perfect but i think sometimes he's looking for something bigger when something smaller will move the chains.
Example from KC this year. Late game, Andre has just failed to sit down in a zone and misses a perfect pass for a first down. Now comes 3rd down, late, with a chance to move the chains. Take a look at Trenton Irwin. He's wide open at the sticks and i think Burrow was looking at Zikkie on a deeper route that he's thrown a million times. Problem is the blitz got to him. It's "failures" like this that i can live with because i see what he wanted to do, but sometimes you just need to crawl a bit instead of running. That's why i won't call this a failure...even though it was...
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
1st game - down 2 tds with 6:40 left. Gets to within 3 and D missed a chance at a sack on 3rd down for a chance at a GWD.
2nd game - mixed bag. Gets team in FG range twice, missed FG both times. Throws INT in OT.
3rd game - throws INT that leads to Jets lead then gets sacked on 3rd down before Jets run out clock.
4th game - Infamous conservative play calling in OT. Leads team to tying TD late with clutch passes then gets close in OT before 2 runs and a sack on 3rd down. SF wins game on next drive with TD.
5th game - Super Bowl. Failed to add to lead in 4th and gets the ball back with 1:25. Hits a couple passes then a failed run on 3rd and 1 and a quick sack while Ja'Marr was wide open down the right sideline.
2021 - That's 3 clutch, 2 no clutch----3 team fails, 1 clear Burrow fail in NYJ and a 50/50 team/Burrow fail in the SB.
I still haven't watched the highlights of the Super Bowl. I've watched the highlights of the Chiefs games multiple times, but I can't bring myself to watch that game.
(10-24-2024, 12:37 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: In full-speed, real time action it looked like he barely touched Mahommes, and more like a soccer flop.
In full speed, it 100% looks like a penalty. I'm mildly surprised people still take umbrage with this call. It's a very obvious call and as Bengals fans, we would be furious if this happened to Burrow and it wasn't called.
(10-24-2024, 12:40 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: In full speed, it 100% looks like a penalty. I'm mildly surprised people still take umbrage with this call. It's a very obvious call and as Bengals fans, we would be furious if this happened to Burrow and it wasn't called.
Yep, that was a dumbass penalty on Ossai and him and everybody knows it I thought.
(10-24-2024, 11:55 AM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: The SB fail was all O-line & O-line only.
I'm just thinking that if the Oline was failing so badly, i would have liked to try something different to generate some points. Didn't seem like they really did anything to counteract it.
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
(10-24-2024, 05:42 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I'm just thinking that if the Oline was failing so badly, i would have liked to try something different to generate some points. Didn't seem like they really did anything to counteract it.
You mean.... like run a screen? The Rams were one of, if not the worst at defending screens that season. We ran zero screens in the Super Bowl.
(10-24-2024, 05:41 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I don't know. I would have wanted that called for Burrow.
Just like the roughing call that wasn't earlier...
Of course we would have wanted the call for Burrow, we're fans of the team. All I'm saying is that it was very light on the touch for a "shove" and quite heavy on the taking a dive on Mahommes' part. That's why I described it as a soccer flop. I understand how the text of the rule reads, and Ossai was guilty, as his hands were technically on Mahommes.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
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