College Football Season Open Thread.

[SunsetBengal]

A few boards might shuffle a bit after Deontay Corleone announced he was returning to UC for another season.

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2025 TE class is flat out loaded.

• Tyler Warren (Penn State)
• Colston Loveland (Michigan)
• Elijah Arroyo (Miami)
• Mason Taylor (LSU)
• Eli Stowers (Vanderbilt)
• Gunnar Helm (Texas)
• Jake Briningstool (Clemson)
• Oronde Gadsden II (Syracuse)
• Harold Fannin Jr…

— Ryan Fowler (@_RyanFowler_) December 13, 2024

[SunsetBengal]

(12-13-2024, 03:33 PM)Synric Wrote:

2025 TE class is flat out loaded.

• Tyler Warren (Penn State)
• Colston Loveland (Michigan)
• Elijah Arroyo (Miami)
• Mason Taylor (LSU)
• Eli Stowers (Vanderbilt)
• Gunnar Helm (Texas)
• Jake Briningstool (Clemson)
• Oronde Gadsden II (Syracuse)
• Harold Fannin Jr…

— Ryan Fowler (@_RyanFowler_) December 13, 2024

Even though the Bengals took 2 last year, might be good insurance to grab another, just in case All never makes it fully back.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(12-13-2024, 07:03 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Even though the Bengals took 2 last year, might be good insurance to grab another, just in case All never makes it fully back.

McLachlan has played zero snaps and Grandy is ahead of him. Gesicki & Hudson are FA's. And counting on All for anything seems foolish. 

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(12-14-2024, 12:55 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: McLachlan has played zero snaps and Grandy is ahead of him. Gesicki & Hudson are FA's. And counting on All for anything seems foolish. 

Tanner McLachlan and Cam Grandy have different skillsets.

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(12-13-2024, 07:03 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Even though the Bengals took 2 last year, might be good insurance to grab another, just in case All never makes it fully back.

Won't be the first time they took 2 day 3 same position then followed it up next year eith a top 100 pick. They just did it with receiver the last two drafts.

[SunsetBengal]

(12-14-2024, 01:59 PM)Synric Wrote: Won't be the first time they took 2 day 3 same position then followed it up next year eith a top 100 pick. They just did it with receiver the last two drafts.

They'll learn, and get it right, one of these years...

[Whatever]

(12-14-2024, 02:30 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: They'll learn, and get it right, one of these years...

It isn't too bad, honestly.  All you can really expect out of Day 3 picks is cheap depth fills.  Sometimes, you hit, but shouldn't be taking guys on Day 3 expecting them to become starters.  

[SunsetBengal]

(12-16-2024, 10:44 AM)Whatever Wrote: It isn't too bad, honestly.  All you can really expect out of Day 3 picks is cheap depth fills.  Sometimes, you hit, but shouldn't be taking guys on Day 3 expecting them to become starters.  

I get that logically, the mathematical probability of landing multiple quality starters late is highly improbable. However, there have been some anomalies over the years that give me reason to think that there is something to be said about in depth scouting and the targeting of players with specific sets of skill to fill a desired role. Think back to the "Legion of Boom" years of the Seahawks defense. That unit seemed to be littered with mid and even late round starters that didn't just fill a role, but excelled.

I'm not saying that just any team can pull something like that off, but one's that know exactly what they are looking for in a player have a much better chance.

[Whatever]

(12-16-2024, 11:00 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I get that logically, the mathematical probability of landing multiple quality starters late is highly improbable. However, there have been some anomalies over the years that give me reason to think that there is something to be said about in depth scouting and the targeting of players with specific sets of skill to fill a desired role. Think back to the "Legion of Boom" years of the Seahawks defense. That unit seemed to be littered with mid and even late round starters that didn't just fill a role, but excelled.

I'm not saying that just any team can pull something like that off, but one's that know exactly what they are looking for in a player have a much better chance.

I think all scouting departments have strengths and weaknesses.  Plus, the coordinator and position coaches developing said talent make a big difference.  We had a long string of success with DL being taken on Day 3 years back, for example.

Sucks, because All showed potential, but sadly, guys with his college injury history rarely suddenly become durable in the NFL.  

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#OleMiss iDL Walter Nolen has officially declared for the 2025 NFL Draft. One of the most impressive prospects that I saw while out on the scouting trail this year. pic.twitter.com/NAAvk8Mxwy

— Jordan Reid (@Jordan_Reid) December 16, 2024

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Second round might end up being the sweet spot for IOL. Mizzou RT Armand Membou has alot of parallels to Amarius Mims. Like Mims Membou is an athlete that has size and not a guy with size that has some athleticism. He's only 6'3 315-320ish but he's built like Mims with zero body fat. He's a natural pass protector but needs to finish a little more as a run blocker. Membou has a chance to cut his teeth at Guard for the Bengals.

Armand Membou setting the tone on the first play of the game against Oklahoma. Talented dude with the right demeanor. pic.twitter.com/EtDUqxtKe8

— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) December 12, 2024

Mizzou RT Armand Membou caught my eye. He displays exciting foot speed, a great base, and extraordinary flexibility. Excited to see steps forward in 2024. pic.twitter.com/O3zSCRd0Zx

— Cory (@fakecorykinnan) June 1, 2024

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Big reason Tyler Warren is TE1 right here.

Tyler Warren in the B10 Championship game was one of the best TE run blocking performances I’ve seen this year

pic.twitter.com/aWouYV0AED

— James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) December 18, 2024

[puddycat]

(12-19-2024, 11:14 AM)Synric Wrote: Mizzou RT Armand Membou has alot of parallels to Amarius Mims. Like Mims Membou is an athlete that has size and not a guy with size that has some athleticism. He's only 6'3 315-320ish but he's built like Mims with zero body fat. He's a natural pass protector but needs to finish a little more as a run blocker. Membou has a chance to cut his teeth at Guard for the Bengals.

So far he seems like he'll a 3rd or even 4th rounder.  He's one of the smallish (height and probably arm length but not weight) but high performing OTs who I see as able to move inside.

My interest for Pegues Ole Miss DT is fading as he is now moving from UDFA to Round 4 status on boards which is fair but no longer diamond in the rough.  My new draft crush is Willie Lampkin, UNC OG. He is regularly the highest rated OG in college football who didn't give up a sack until week 13 of the season and is also a highly rated run blocker. His sin is that he's under 6' tall at 290 lbs.  Seems like he's worth a late flyer as a FB although he's also played every position on the O line.

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(12-19-2024, 04:17 PM)puddycat Wrote: So far he seems like he'll a 3rd or even 4th rounder.  He's one of the smallish (height and probably arm length but not weight) but high performing OTs who I see as able to move inside.

My interest for Pegues Ole Miss DT is fading as he is now moving from UDFA to Round 4 status on boards which is fair but no longer diamond in the rough.  My new draft crush is Willie Lampkin, UNC OG. He is regularly the highest rated OG in college football who didn't give up a sack until week 13 of the season and is also a highly rated run blocker. His sin is that he's under 6' tall at 290 lbs.  Seems like he's worth a late flyer as a FB although he's also played every position on the O line.

I don't think Membou will fall that far. He is going to test very well athleticlly at the combine (Feldman Freak). I don't know what his arm length is but he plays with good length. Membou is one of three OT this year that haven't given up a Sack or a QB Hit. He's done that will facing guys like Nic Scourton, Shemar Stewart, LT Overton, Kyle Kennard. He did better against those guys than Will Campbell.


Second round is looking like it could be the sweet spot for IOL.

[*ochocincos*]

(12-19-2024, 11:24 AM)Synric Wrote: Big reason Tyler Warren is TE1 right here.

Tyler Warren in the B10 Championship game was one of the best TE run blocking performances I’ve seen this year

pic.twitter.com/aWouYV0AED

— James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) December 18, 2024

If Bengals didn't have so many other needs, Warren is who I want.

[cinci4life]

Not every day you see a 98 yard TD run. WOW!

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(12-20-2024, 10:26 PM)cinci4life Wrote: Not every day you see a 98 yard TD run. WOW!

How about a first down run by a 6'5 450 DT? Lol

DESMOND WATSON GETS THE FIRST DOWN ? pic.twitter.com/jxJDiWXbzR

— SEC Network (@SECNetwork) December 20, 2024

 

[pulses]

(12-16-2024, 11:47 AM)Whatever Wrote: I think all scouting departments have strengths and weaknesses.  Plus, the coordinator and position coaches developing said talent make a big difference.  We had a long string of success with DL being taken on Day 3 years back, for example.

Sucks, because All showed potential, but sadly, guys with his college injury history rarely suddenly become durable in the NFL.  

This years TE class is gonna be deep once again. If they can sign some guys IN FA to fill some holes I wouldn't have a problem taking Warren in 1.

[cinci4life]

Have i mentioned how damn amazing Jeremiah Smith is?