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Is This Organization Serious About winning Or Is It All About The Benjamin's?
#21
If I were a coach in the running for the Bengals DC job I would jump at the chance. The offense is already there. All a DC has to do is put the defense in place, hire good coordinators and keep the opposition from scoring more than 20 points or so.

A chance to go to the playoffs with JB, Chase, Trey?? A no brainer. Use this position as a spring board for a HC job if successful.

I think the Bengals are in a good position : please, FO, don't blow it
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#22
I think their serious about both but they are also in it for control. The truth is the Brown/Blackburn regime has never gotten over the Art Model takeover of the Browns. This is their franchise and they are hell bent on doing things their way.
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(01-10-2025, 01:53 PM)Sled21 Wrote: The last time ZT was a brand-new head coach with Andy Dalton as QB. The past is not the present or the future. We now have an offense with Burrow that is scoring enough to win 12 games with an average defense.  You have to keep up....

I never said the job isn’t more desirable this time around. It absolutely is. But saying to give them the benefit of the doubt when they haven’t really earned it has nothing to do with that. I would love to see them make a big splash at DC and prove me wrong.
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(01-09-2025, 10:22 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: This is the answer.

Their way has won at just less than a 42% clip during Mike’s reign. Their way is suboptimal. While the Bengals have four winning seasons in a row, they’ve only had 10 winning seasons under Mike’s tenure as owner/GM.
Through 2024

Mike Brown Owner/GM record: 34 years  232-311-4  .419 winning pct.
Playoff Record:  5-9 .357 winning pct.  
Zac Taylor coaching record: 6 years 46-52-1 .470 winning pct.
Playoff Record: 5-2 .714 winning pct.
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#25
The browns got to eat.
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#26
(01-09-2025, 06:44 PM)jj22 Wrote: They are serious about winning, they just want to win their way.

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(01-09-2025, 10:22 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: This is the answer.

Thanks for the support.  Cool
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#27
If they hire Eberflus, that is a good sign.
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#28
(01-10-2025, 02:27 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote:  Help me understand how Bengals are losers the past 4 years.

Because no one remembers the SB Loser..only the Winners..

Unless you lose a lot of Super Bowl's with no wins..like the 90's Buffalo Bills..4 consecutive trips to the SB..zero wins ..
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#29
If this organization was actually all about the benjamins, they probably would have moved the franchise by now to a bigger market, or at least done more to try to draw in more $$.

Mike Brown wants to win, but he has some very old-school (outdated) philosophies that a majority of the league doesn't have anymore.
I wasn't able to find Troy Blackburn's age, but Katie is 59 years old, so by the time the reins are ready to be handed to someone else, I don't know if it would actually go to Katie/Troy. They may decide to pass it onto Elizabeth/Caroline instead.

Katie/Troy seem more likely to continue the ways of Mike Brown, but I think Elizabeth/Caroline would have a more modern approach, as we're seeing with some of the other things that have changed since they've gotten more involved.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. Ended 9-8 but barely missed playoffs

Changes needed to do better in Sept/Oct moving forward.

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(Yesterday, 03:09 PM)ochocincos Wrote: If this organization was actually all about the benjamins, they probably would have moved the franchise by now to a bigger market, or at least done more to try to draw in more $$.

Mike Brown wants to win, but he has some very old-school (outdated) philosophies that a majority of the league doesn't have anymore.
I wasn't able to find Troy Blackburn's age, but Katie is 59 years old, so by the time the reins are ready to be handed to someone else, I don't know if it would actually go to Katie/Troy. They may decide to pass it onto Elizabeth/Caroline instead.

Katie/Troy seem more likely to continue the ways of Mike Brown, but I think Elizabeth/Caroline would have a more modern approach, as we're seeing with some of the other things that have changed since they've gotten more involved.

Didn't even realize Katie and Troy were that old, but I guess it fits. Actually surprised she's not older now that I think about it.

I remember Troy saying that he'd hire a GM once Mike was gone, and I can't imagine them keeping all of the same ways as her old man. She just doesn't seem that hard-headed or as big of a tight ass.

As far as moving, I think Mike Brown was just always comfortable here because there wasn't much of a pushback when he kept putting shit teams on the field and the city even paid for a new stadium.
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