Detroit Lions!!

[*Awful Llama*]

Best Lions team in 95 years of football with an 11-0 run. Given the remaining schedule, Philly may still edge them out for the #1 seed, but this has still been an impressive run.

[EatonFan]

Since the Bengals are now eliminated, I am rooting for the Lions. I've always felt they were the 'Bengals' of the NFC given their history. A lot of suffering as a fan of either team.

[BengalYankee]

(01-05-2025, 11:11 PM)EatonFan Wrote: Since the Bengals are now eliminated, I am rooting for the Lions.  I've always felt they were the 'Bengals' of the NFC given their history.  A lot of suffering as a fan of either team.

[EatonFan]

(01-06-2025, 04:41 PM)BengalYankee Wrote:

0 Superbowls

[*Awful Llama*]

(01-05-2025, 11:11 PM)EatonFan Wrote: Since the Bengals are now eliminated, I am rooting for the Lions.  I've always felt they were the 'Bengals' of the NFC given their history.  A lot of suffering as a fan ofne either team.t 

I've been a Detroit fan since the mid-'80s.  I was hoping to finally have a Cincinnati/Detroit super bowl after waiting for it for decades.  Alas, it was not to be.  So, I'm hoping they can finally at least get to one and get off the futility list.

[BengalYankee]

(01-06-2025, 09:14 PM)EatonFan Wrote: 0 Superbowls

Do you know what trophy this is? 
 


It is the CFP National Championship Trophy, earned by the best team in College Football Division I since 2014. 

That is today's standard, 2014.  Keep in mind we have a 12 team playoff format now.  

All the BCS Championships 1998-2013 don't count?   

Do all the championships voted by the coaches and the ones by the writers not count before the BCS? 

Are you telling me all the College Football Championships don't count? 

If you say they do count then Yale has the most College Football Championships at 18. 

Who says? The NCAA says!!!!

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2023-01-09/college-football-teams-most-national-championships




Then Detroit has 4 World Championships. 


 
 

[EatonFan]

(01-07-2025, 02:58 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: Do you know what trophy this is? 
 


It is the CFP National Championship Trophy, earned by the best team in College Football Division I since 2014. 

That is today's standard, 2014.  Keep in mind we have a 12 team playoff format now.  

All the BCS Championships 1998-2013 don't count?   

Do all the championships voted by the coaches and the ones by the writers not count before the BCS? 

Are you telling me all the College Football Championships don't count? 

If you say they do count then Yale has the most College Football Championships at 18. 

Who says? The NCAA says!!!!

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2023-01-09/college-football-teams-most-national-championships




Then Detroit has 4 World Championships. 


 
 

My stat still stands:  0 Super Bowls

[BengalYankee]

(01-08-2025, 09:56 PM)EatonFan Wrote: My stat still stands:  0 Super Bowls

UCLA, USC, Miami, Notre Dame, Florida State, Nebraska, Oklahoma:  0 CFP Championships. 

Gotcha   

[EatonFan]

(01-09-2025, 09:19 AM)BengalYankee Wrote: UCLA, USC, Miami, Notre Dame, Florida State, Nebraska, Oklahoma:  0 CFP Championships. 

Gotcha   

False equivalent.  The CFB is not the NFL.  Those Detroit championships were before the merger.  Was there a merger in CFB?  

[SunsetBengal]

(01-05-2025, 11:11 PM)EatonFan Wrote: Since the Bengals are now eliminated, I am rooting for the Lions.  I've always felt they were the 'Bengals' of the NFC given their history.  A lot of suffering as a fan of either team.

Not a bad choice, as they were originally from Ohio. They began life as the Portsmouth Spartans, the first ever professional football team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsmouth_Spartans

[*bengalfan74*]

(01-09-2025, 10:22 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Not a bad choice, as they were originally from Ohio. They began life as the Portsmouth Spartans, the first ever professional football team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsmouth_Spartans

I went by Spartan Stadium not to long ago, memories. The city of Portsmouth has tried to get the NFL to buy Spartan stadium several times, no dice. And just to the east a bit were the Ironton Tanks. Lots of football history in southern Ohio.

Oh and I'm a Lions fan now as well.

[BengalYankee]

(01-09-2025, 10:19 AM)EatonFan Wrote: False equivalent.  The CFB is not the NFL.  Those Detroit championships were before the merger.  Was there a merger in CFB?  

False logic.

No other sport is any other sport. 

We are talking about the culmination, finale, omega, completion, achievement, and fulfillment of a season.

The CFP Championship is new that is why Alabama is recognized with having the most Championships with 3 with the new trophy since 2014. That is a fact.

If you want don't want to agree with what the NCAA and neglect the CFP Championship then Yale has the most Championships at 18, since 1874.

That is not me saying this but the NCAA themselves. That is a fact.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2023-01-09/college-football-teams-most-national-championships

[EatonFan]

(01-09-2025, 02:31 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: False logic.

No other sport is any other sport. 

We are talking about the culmination, finale, omega, completion, achievement, and fulfillment of a season.

The CFP Championship is new that is why Alabama is recognized with having the most Championships with 3 with the new trophy since 2014. That is a fact.

If you want don't want to agree with what the NCAA and neglect the CFP Championship then Yale has the most Championships at 18, since 1874.

That is not me saying this but the NCAA themselves. That is a fact.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2023-01-09/college-football-teams-most-national-championships

Whatever dude.  We're just not going to agree.  I think college is college and the NFL really became the NFL after the merger.

[BengalYankee]

(01-06-2025, 04:41 PM)BengalYankee Wrote:

(01-06-2025, 09:14 PM)EatonFan Wrote: 0 Superbowls

Hi EatonFan,

Let me ask you or anyone else. 

What is the Detroit Lions franchise's most successful year, 2024 or 1935, 1952, 1953, 1957? 

[*Awful Llama*]

And the inevitable, for me anyway, Detroit/Cincinnati Super Bowl will have to wait yet another year.  Sadly, I don't even have Detroit to root for now.  I'm now back to the rooting-for-the-team-I-detest-least part of the season.  That's happened too many damn years.

[*Nately120*]

(01-19-2025, 06:25 PM)Awful Llama Wrote: And the inevitable, for me anyway, Detroit/Cincinnati Super Bowl will have to wait yet another year.  Sadly, I don't even have Detroit to root for now.  I'm now back to the rooting-for-the-team-I-detest-least part of the season.  That's happened too many damn years.

Other than them being in the NFC and being "good but not so good you're sick of them" I don't get the Lions love around here.  Campbell is pretty much a cross between Travis Kelce and Bill Cowher who calls plays like he's playing Madden on "too cute" mode, their QB is a SoCal pretty boy who crumbles in big games, and they play in a dome.

Like I said, they and Buffalo currently have that sort of "you are good but you aren't so good we're sick of you" shine on them, sort of the same thing Mahommes and Reid had when the entire country was rooting for them to unseat the Patriots and Brady-era Buccaneers.  

[*Awful Llama*]

(01-20-2025, 11:27 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Other than them being in the NFC and being "good but not so good you're sick of them" I don't get the Lions love around here.  Campbell is pretty much a cross between Travis Kelce and Bill Cowher who calls plays like he's playing Madden on "too cute" mode, their QB is a SoCal pretty boy who crumbles in big games, and they play in a dome.

Like I said, they and Buffalo currently have that sort of "you are good but you aren't so good we're sick of you" shine on them, sort of the same thing Mahommes and Reid had when the entire country was rooting for them to unseat the Patriots and Brady-era Buccaneers.  

That may explain some of their popularity here.  When have they ever really caused this team any misery?  Kijana's injury, maybe?  And that was more a turf issue.  Apart from that, not much.  Personally, I've been a Detroit fan since the mid-80s, as I've stated numerous times here.  I went to many a Thanksgiving Day game at the Silverdome, and many Minnesota games with a buddy who's a Vikings fan.  My family contains both Browns and Bengals fans, but we put that aside and cheer together for the Lions. So, my support for them is genuine, just as it is for the Bengals.  

Hope that explains my motives, anyway.   If not, let me know, I'd rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

[*Nately120*]

(01-20-2025, 11:59 AM)Awful Llama Wrote: That may explain some of their popularity here.  When have they ever really caused this team any misery?  Kijana's injury, maybe?  And that was more a turf issue.  Apart from that, not much.  Personally, I've been a Detroit fan since the mid-80s, as I've stated numerous times here.  I went to many a Thanksgiving Day game at the Silverdome, and many Minnesota games with a buddy who's a Vikings fan.  My family contains both Browns and Bengals fans, but we put that aside and cheer together for the Lions. So, my support for them is genuine, just as it is for the Bengals.  

Hope that explains my motives, anyway.   If not, let me know, I'd rather light a candle than curse your darkness.

I get that, I've half cared about the Chicago Bears as an NFC team for decades too...my friend who is a Packers/Steelers fan had a better time of things for a while there for sure.

I'm not sure I'm cursing the darkness so much as finding it interesting the way people react to dynasties now.  Not too long ago the Chiefs were a franchise with 0 SB appearance since the 60s who hadn't done anything and were a change of pace from the Brady/Belichick dominance, and now they're enemy #1.  Could that happen if the Lions or Bills go on a run?  I assume so.  Picturing Dan Campbell acting like a horse's ass in the same insurance commercial that plays 20 times per game can and will send people over the edge.

I think dynasties are looked at differently in this age of oversaturation and 24/7 coverage and bombardment.  I say this as someone who was a kid in the 90s but was rooting for the Suns or the Jazz or ANYONE while it seemed like everyone else absolutely loved Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls winning 6 titles in 8 years.

So yea, it's odd that I went from being someone who was more likely to root against the team that wins too much to finding it amusing that it's mainstream to spent the past 25 years agonizing over the Patriots and Chiefs winning.  Keep in mind even as a kid I half jokingly rooted for the Coyote to catch the Roadrunner, for the guy with the Iraqi flag to beat Hulk Hogan and for the Bengals (I'm from outside of Pittsburgh) to beat the Steelers.


Hot take, the Commanders are about 2 more good seasons away from people accusing the NFL for being rigged for them so they can shove their "woke agenda" down our throats because they want them  to win now that they changed their name.

[*Awful Llama*]

(01-20-2025, 12:30 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I get that, I've half cared about the Chicago Bears as an NFC team for decades too...my friend who is a Packers/Steelers fan had a better time of things for a while there for sure.

I'm not sure I'm cursing the darkness so much as finding it interesting the way people react to dynasties now.  Not too long ago the Chiefs were a franchise with 0 SB appearance since the 60s who hadn't done anything and were a change of pace from the Brady/Belichick dominance, and now they're enemy #1.  Could that happen if the Lions or Bills go on a run?  I assume so.  Picturing Dan Campbell acting like a horse's ass in the same insurance commercial that plays 20 times per game can and will send people over the edge.

I think dynasties are looked at differently in this age of oversaturation and 24/7 coverage and bombardment.  I say this as someone who was a kid in the 90s but was rooting for the Suns or the Jazz or ANYONE while it seemed like everyone else absolutely loved Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls winning 6 titles in 8 years.

So yea, it's odd that I went from being someone who was more likely to root against the team that wins too much to finding it amusing that it's mainstream to spent the past 25 years agonizing over the Patriots and Chiefs winning.  Keep in mind even as a kid I half jokingly rooted for the Coyote to catch the Roadrunner, for the guy with the Iraqi flag to beat Hulk Hogan and for the Bengals (I'm from outside of Pittsburgh) to beat the Steelers.


Hot take, the Commanders are about 2 more good seasons away from people accusing the NFL for being rigged for them so they can shove their "woke agenda" down our throats because they want them  to win now that they changed their name.

Sure, this infatuation period for Detroit may be fleeting.  I certainly hope it is.  May they and the Bengals soon be the most hated teams in America. May people across this country tear their hair out when Dan and Zac's commercials are everywhere.  That's when you know you've arrived.  

I too was a W. E. Coyote fan.  I also wanted Tom to catch Jerry.  Much more fun that way.

This season's end was a double whammy for me, with the ultimate fates of Cincinnati and Detroit. I was left with hoping Pittsburgh, Baltimore and KC get bounced, and little else to care about after that.  That sucks, in spades.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Sounds like Ben Johnson might be taking the Raiders HC job.