Trey Hendrickson

[Clark W Griswold]

(Yesterday, 12:02 AM)jj22 Wrote: Trade him. There’s a lot of defensive ends this draft. If you can get a 1st we can use both on ends.

That can get you 17 1/2 sacks a year? I don’t think so. In fact no other NFL player got close to his 17 1/2 this season so just pay him and don’t be foolish enough to think you can replace him.
This is the mistake they made with guys like Whit and Bates. You have the QB so don’t over think it. Go for it now.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Extending him is a no-brainer.
Keep him for the rest of Burrow’s 20’s, and you have your core 3 to build around.

[jj22]

(Yesterday, 12:08 AM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: That can get you 17 1/2 sacks a year?  I don’t think so. In fact no other NFL player got close to his 17 1/2 this season so just pay him and don’t be foolish enough to think you can replace him.
This is the mistake they made with guys like Whit and Bates. You have the QB so don’t over think it. Go for it now.

The thing is and difference between Tee and Trey is the offense is notably better with Tee. With Trey and his 17 sacks the defense still sucks. 

Would you take two 8-10 sack ends on each side if it meant a more balanced defense and ability to sign more talent in areas that this draft may not be strong in? 

[jj22]

I like the player and I even like the person but Trey can’t be trusted long term. He’s either going to demand another contract in 2026 (even with an extension), retire, or start skipping offseason workouts to be with his family (which is honorable no doubt). Trey’s the type of player you have to sell high. His priorities are right don’t get me wrong, but football never struck me as one of them. I don’t necessarily get the eat, breath, live for football vibe from him.

[M.W.]

(Yesterday, 12:18 AM)jj22 Wrote: The thing is and difference between Tee and Trey is the offense is notably better with Tee. With Trey and his 17 sacks the defense still sucks. 

Would you take two 8-10 sack ends on each side if it meant a more balanced defense and ability to sign more talent in areas that this draft may not be strong in? 

Trey is by far the best player on our defense.
Tee is not close to Chase or Joe.  The difference in talent level is enormous between our defense and our offense. 

[jj22]

(Yesterday, 12:59 AM)M.W. Wrote: Trey is by far the best player on our defense.
Tee is not close to Chase or Joe.  The difference in talent level is enormous between our defense and our offense. 

Yes but our defense is bad with Trey. The needle doesn’t change with him playing or without him. 

Not to ignore his clutch play when we do win games. 

[Nicomo Cosca]

(Yesterday, 01:02 AM)jj22 Wrote: Yes but our defense is bad with Trey. The needle doesn’t change with him playing or without him. 

Not to ignore his clutch play when we do win games. 

Our OL sucked with Whit at the end of his time here. How did letting him leave work out?

Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.

[Bengal Dude]

If we had a bevy of pass rushers waiting in the wings, then I'd say trade Trey and get some picks. 

Unfortunately, our pass rush is Trey and Trey only. We need to extend him. The FO has to get over their hurt feelings about the Dunlap and Geno extensions. Not every extension for a 30 year old is a bad thing. Extending him doesn't prevent us from drafting another pass rusher. 

[Clark W Griswold]

(Yesterday, 12:18 AM)jj22 Wrote: The thing is and difference between Tee and Trey is the offense is notably better with Tee. With Trey and his 17 sacks the defense still sucks. 

Would you take two 8-10 sack ends on each side if it meant a more balanced defense and ability to sign more talent in areas that this draft may not be strong in? 

And you are going to guarantee that 2 rookies or a rookie and a vet will come in and get 8-10 sacks each? Doubtful especially when you see that only 17 guys in the league had double digit sacks but the Bengals are magically going to get 2 guys like that?
Do you want to waste another year waiting for a rookie pass rusher to develop?

Extend him and go for it. You can still sign or draft a decent pass rusher to complement the one you already have. Don’t let an All Pro player at a key position walk out of the door…

[Bengalbug]

(Yesterday, 01:48 AM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: And you are going to guarantee that 2 rookies or a rookie and a vet will come in and get 8-10 sacks each? Doubtful especially when you see that only 17 guys in the league had double digit sacks but the Bengals are magically going to get 2 guys like that?
Do you want to waste another year waiting for a rookie pass rusher to develop?

Extend him and go for it. You can still sign or draft a decent pass rusher to complement the one you already have. Don’t let an All Pro player at a key position walk out of the door…

I agree. It’s not like we are talking about Hubbard, Pratt or even Mike Hilton (who I think has a good role here). Getting rid of Trey would be the equivalent of the chiefs saying to Chris jones, thanks but your services are no longer needed. It would be nice, for once, to have a bengal great retire a bengal. I know he started out as a saint, but if he plays another 3-4 years here, we could be looking at a HOF career, and go in as a bengals.

[Bengalbug]

Did you know…
Trey Hendrickson is 3rd in the NFL in sacks over the last 5 years.

TJ Watt 73.5
Myles Garrett 72
Hendrickson 70

Number 4 is 53.5

He is also tied for 4th in Forced Fumbles with 12.

Good luck replacing that production.

Better bet, as others has said, is get some people to join in and help with pressure. It wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing if Trey never sees 17.5 again, if we have a few others chipping in consistently.

[J24]

(Yesterday, 02:43 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Did you know…
Trey Hendrickson is 3rd in the NFL in sacks over the last 5 years.

TJ Watt 73.5
Myles Garrett 72
Hendrickson 70

Number 4 is 53.5

He is also tied for 4th in Forced Fumbles with 12.

Good luck replacing that production.

Better bet, as others has said, is get some people to join in and help with pressure.  It wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing if Trey never sees 17.5 again, if we have a few others chipping in consistently.

Ideally, yes add to the pass rush instead of subtract that's the #1'choice.

[lone bengal]

I want him on the team for 2025 Burrow is already in year 6 we can’t waste another year of Burrow not winning a ring. Trey gives us the best chance of winning for 2025. We can’t even find a guy to get a couple sacks opposite Trey. Hubbard is a cut candidate and Murphy had zero sacks lol. Hill is a free agent and we don’t have a DT on the roster who can consistently get pressure. You trade Trey now you’re looking for a number 1 rusher along with a number 2 and still need depth on the edge. The defense just has to be not horrible with Burrow. I’d rather ride with Trey and target a pass rusher early that coupled with hoping a new DC can get more production. Get creative with his contract add some more incentives or whatever you have to do. Competitive teams across the league make it happen we need to figure it out. Tobin has been a GM for 20 years and has a job for life time to earn your keep my friend.

[*bengalfan74*]

(Yesterday, 02:43 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Did you know…
Trey Hendrickson is 3rd in the NFL in sacks over the last 5 years.

TJ Watt 73.5
Myles Garrett 72
Hendrickson 70

Number 4 is 53.5

He is also tied for 4th in Forced Fumbles with 12.

Good luck replacing that production.

Better bet, as others has said, is get some people to join in and help with pressure.  It wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing if Trey never sees 17.5 again, if we have a few others chipping in consistently.

Right

I can't see how there's any way in the world they don't pay Trey. If they were to trade him, cut him, he holds out or whatever and he's not a Bengal next season this team, this defense gets A LOT worse.

When you have one of the worst defenses in the NFL you can't subtract. We can't rely on the guys we currently have and the draft to fix this defense alone.

[jj22]

(Yesterday, 10:40 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: When you have one of the worst defenses in the NFL you can't subtract. 

Why? 

[Essex Johnson]

Resign Trey and trade or tag Higgins for one more year

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 11:50 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Resign Trey and trade or tag Higgins for one more year

I saw a quote from Burrow (supposedly) saying he is willing to do whatever it takes to re-sign Higgins, and Higgins said the same thing. The interesting part is he followed it up with "We've had those discussions." Not sure of the source, I saw it online somewhere. But it seems to me Higgins will be re-signed this year along with Chase. 

[jj22]

Burrow had his chance to "do whatever it took" and he turned around and signed to be the highest paid player in the league (at the time)....

Restructuring doesn't hurt Burrow at all (it actually financially helps him), and it's a fallacy around here that that is some sort of sacrifice for him to make.

Same with Chase. I'm sure during his negotiations last offseason he knew they wanted to try to keep Tee, and he held off and (and then held in) signing a deal, not because of the numbers mind you, but he wouldn't even help with the structure. A structure that could have helped re-sign Tee.

They both manipulating fans and will and have done what's best for them and only them. Which is only natural. 

[masonbengals fan]

(01-20-2025, 10:51 PM)CJD Wrote: IF the Bengals, by the end of this off season, don't extend Chase, extend Hendrickson and re-sign Higgins, this off season will be a failure. It almost doesn't matter what else they do. 3 of their 4 best players (with a big drop off after 4) are on the line this off season. You can't fix that with a draft or a free agency period.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(01-20-2025, 10:51 PM)CJD Wrote: IF the Bengals, by the end of this off season, don't extend Chase, extend Hendrickson and re-sign Higgins, this off season will be a failure. It almost doesn't matter what else they do. 3 of their 4 best players (with a big drop off after 4) are on the line this off season. You can't fix that with a draft or a free agency period.

Lost me there. The rest of it I agree with though.