Donovan Jackson in rd1.

[Luvnit2]

(01-26-2025, 01:47 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: 1st Team All American this season, his stock will continue to rise.

As of today, 1/26/2025 he is at an average of 38 on Consensus Big Board and I see him rising also. A lot of these sites have not done updated rankings for over 30 to 45 days.

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2025/consensus-big-board-2025?pos=ALL#google_vignette

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Donovan Jackson had reps against Jordan Burch and Matayo Uiagalelei from Oregon in the CFB Playoffs. Matayo has a chance to work himself into a day 1 guy in 2026.


Matayo Uiagalelei and Donovan Jackson's fathers had a funny Twitter exchange before/after that game too lol.

[Whatever]

(01-25-2025, 11:43 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Okay, that is current I guess and I didn't get to watch the playoff as it was on espn and i don't have that channel.

But all I heard when I was watching Buckeye games before he switched to LT was that Donovan was a top Guard in the class.

That sure seems earlier than the 3rd round especially after showing he can play LT.

FWIW, the Consensus Big Board has Jackson as the #38 overall prospect on average and the #3 IOL behind behind Booker and Membou, also projected at G.  Booker will take a hit in athletic testing and Membou will likely impress in that area, imo.

Jackson is currently my G1 and I see him as a second rounder.  17 would be a reach.  49 would be about where I think he should go.  

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(01-26-2025, 02:08 PM)Whatever Wrote: FWIW, the Consensus Big Board has Jackson as the #38 overall prospect on average and the #3 IOL behind behind Booker and Membou, also projected at G.  Booker will take a hit in athletic testing and Membou will likely impress in that area, imo.

Jackson is currently my G1 and I see him as a second rounder.  17 would be a reach.  49 would be about where I think he should go.  

Daniel Jeremiah just had Booker #10 overall to the Bears.

[Luvnit2]

(01-26-2025, 02:08 PM)Whatever Wrote: FWIW, the Consensus Big Board has Jackson as the #38 overall prospect on average and the #3 IOL behind behind Booker and Membou, also projected at G.  Booker will take a hit in athletic testing and Membou will likely impress in that area, imo.

Jackson is currently my G1 and I see him as a second rounder.  17 would be a reach.  49 would be about where I think he should go.  

I think if he is the top guard in this draft yes, a bit of a reach, but not many guards have shown the ability to also play tackle.

If we use the logic he is at a reach at #17, would it be fair hoping the 38th pick falls to 49 is also not likely so we miss out on him.

[Luvnit2]

(01-26-2025, 02:24 PM)Synric Wrote: Daniel Jeremiah just had Booker #10 overall to the Bears.

I saw that as well. He also has Membou 11th He has 2 OG taken by 11 and one OT.
 I would be shocked if that happened. I think we may have a shot at Booker, Membou or Jackson with 17. He has us taking Nolan which would be a solid pick for us at 17.

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2025-nfl-mock-draft-1-0

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(01-26-2025, 02:32 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I saw that as well. He also has Membou 11th He has 2 OG taken by 11 and one OT.
 I would be shocked if that happened. I think we may have a shot at Booker, Membou or Jackson with 17. He has us taking Nolan which would be a solid pick for us at 17.

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2025-nfl-mock-draft-1-0

Booker was outstanding this year. 10 total pressures 0 sacks and an absolute road grader in the run game.


Someone is going to give Membou a shot at Offensive Tackle.

[Luvnit2]

(01-26-2025, 02:38 PM)Synric Wrote: Booker was outstanding this year. 10 total pressures 0 sacks and an absolute road grader in the run game.


Someone is going to give Membou a shot at Offensive Tackle.

I would love him to fall to us as an option at 17. I am not saying he will not be a 1st half of round one pick, I am saying not likely he is 1oth and Membou is 11th. Too many needs for teams in the top 10 or 11. Also, I don't see a top 10 QB in this class (day 1 starter in NFL), but very likely at least 2 land in top 10 which takes away 2 spots from top 10.

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Sure 'seems' like a lot of the prospects this year have a G/T or T/G label on them. More than normal, instead of just the one position. Even the so called top T prospect, Campbell, might check in with short arms.

New O-line coach, Scott Peters, should be a busy man sorting them out.

[SunsetBengal]

(01-26-2025, 02:46 PM)Goalpost Wrote: Sure 'seems' like a lot of the prospects this year have a G/T or T/G label on them.  More than normal, instead of just the one position.  Even the so called top T prospect, Campbell, might check in with short arms.

New O-line coach, Scott Peters, should be a busy man sorting them out.

I'd venture to say that a guy like Peters likely already knows what traits and physical characteristics he's looking for that OL have for what he's going to ask them to do. You can also count on a guy like Peters having coached up enough short arm-long arm guys and wide frame-narrow frame guys to know by watching what they have done, weather they have a realistic shot at being successful at the NFL level.

Obviously I'm being optimistic, as I'm counting on Peters deserving his shot as OL coach.

[pulses]

(01-26-2025, 01:47 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: 1st Team All American this season, his stock will continue to rise.

It might but not top 20.

[SunsetBengal]

(01-26-2025, 06:37 PM)pulses Wrote: It might but not top 20.

Let's be honest, pretty much everyone rated 13-30 is pretty much equal prospects. It all depends upon what a team feels like they need at the time of the pick. If the guy they wanted for a specific position isn't there, and another player at a position of high need is 5-8 spots lower, no big deal. The BPA analogy only works so long as the player fits a need and will work in the specific scheme a team runs. (save for WRs)

[pulses]

(01-26-2025, 06:43 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Let's be honest, pretty much everyone rated 13-30 is pretty much equal prospects. It all depends upon what a team feels like they need at the time of the pick. If the guy they wanted for a specific position isn't there, and another player at a position of high need is 5-8 spots lower, no big deal. The BPA analogy only works so long as the player fits a need and will work in the specific scheme a team runs. (save for WRs)

Jackson is currently the 15th best OL in the class on nfldraftbuzz that isn't gonna translate into a top 15-20 pick. He's a good OL but he's not that damn good or he would be ranked higher....everyone has seen him play it's not like he's some kid from William and Mary who nobody has saw.. They know what he is and they have rated him accordingly. If he is there in round 2 yes but round 1 absolutely NOT.

[SunsetBengal]

(01-26-2025, 07:16 PM)pulses Wrote: Jackson is currently the 15th best OL in the class on nfldraftbuzz  that isn't gonna translate into a top 15-20 pick. He's a good OL but he's not that damn good or he would be ranked higher....everyone has seen him play it's not like he's some kid from William and Mary who nobody has saw.. They know what he is and they have rated him accordingly. If he is there in round 2 yes but round 1 absolutely NOT.

Yeah, I now where he's rated NOW, but many of those services haven't updated in quite some time. He was a 3rd round pick before the season even began. Now that he's a 1st Team All American, and held down LT throughout the National Championship run, he's going to gain momentum, very rapidly.

[Luvnit2]

(01-26-2025, 03:34 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I'd venture to say that a guy like Peters likely already knows what traits and physical characteristics he's looking for that OL have for what he's going to ask them to do. You can also count on a guy like Peters having coached up enough short arm-long arm guys and wide frame-narrow frame guys to know by watching what they have done, weather they have a realistic shot at being successful at the NFL level.

Obviously I'm being optimistic, as I'm counting on Peters deserving his shot as OL coach.

I consider you one of the OL gurus inn JN. If you are excited Peters is the Ol coach that gives me hope that he will develop new OL and maybe hold overs as well. It sure would be great to finally give JB a complete OL.

[SunsetBengal]

(01-26-2025, 07:32 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I consider you one of the OL gurus inn JN. If you are excited Peters is the Ol coach that gives me hope that he will develop new OL and maybe hold overs as well. It sure would be great to finally give JB a complete OL.

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm also guilty of being happy about Frank Pollack coming back after the failed Jim Turner experiment, so there is that. However, I am excited for Peters as he is a desciple of the Bill Callahan tree. I trust that he wants physical, fundamental play from his players, along with the ability to be in shape and move when called to.

[Whatever]

(01-26-2025, 02:24 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I think if he is the top guard in this draft yes, a bit of a reach, but not many guards have shown the ability to also play tackle.

If we use the logic he is at a reach at #17, would it be fair hoping the 38th pick falls to 49 is also not likely so we miss out on him.

Actually, a lot of G's in the NFL were T's in college and can play there in a pinch.  It's a nice thing to have, but not really that uncommon.

I like Jackson as a prospect, but he's not some can't miss, franchise defining prospect that we just HAVE to have.  I mean, currently reaching 21 spots for him is a lot worse than hoping he falls 11 spots and missing out.  There will still be plenty of good prospects at 49 regardless of whether he's there or not.

[pulses]

(01-26-2025, 07:20 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, I now where he's rated NOW, but many of those services haven't updated in quite some time. He was a 3rd round pick before the season even began. Now that he's a 1st Team All American, and held down LT throughout the National Championship run, he's going to gain momentum, very rapidly.

I've watched current videos of people doing ratings online everywhere and he's barely top 10 in the class.....like i said if he is there in the 2nd fine but no way at 17.

[Jpoore]

(01-25-2025, 06:05 PM)pulses Wrote: nfldraftbuzz currently has a 3rd round grade on him. taking him at 17 is a reach. Like others said he didn't face any top edges to see how really good he can be at LT. WE know he's a solid OG tho.

(01-26-2025, 07:16 PM)pulses Wrote: Jackson is currently the 15th best OL in the class on nfldraftbuzz that isn't gonna translate into a top 15-20 pick. He's a good OL but he's not that damn good or he would be ranked higher....everyone has seen him play it's not like he's some kid from William and Mary who nobody has saw.. They know what he is and they have rated him accordingly. If he is there in round 2 yes but round 1 absolutely NOT.

NFL draft buzz is a garbage site… for example they have jack sawyer as #21 overall and Jackson is So much better. Bio literally calls Jackson a cornerstone franchise changing olineman but have him rd3? Make it make sense. Also they have him graded as a tackle not guard. Most are grading him as tackle currently for some reason but as a guard he’s right there with best guard in draft. He’s being hurt due to that penn state game. He can play. As Plug and play as it gets.

[pulses]

(01-27-2025, 04:34 AM)Jpoore Wrote: NFL draft buzz is a garbage site… for example they have jack sawyer as #21 overall and Jackson is So much better. Bio literally calls Jackson a cornerstone franchise changing olineman but have him rd3? Make it make sense. Also they have him graded as a tackle not guard.  Most are grading him as tackle currently for some reason but as a guard he’s right there with best guard in draft. He’s being hurt due to that penn state game. He can play. As Plug and play as it gets.

nfldraftbuzz is NOT garbage just your opinion and we know how that goes right??