Dre’Mont Jones released by Seattle

[BenZoo2]

could be worth a look if Hill not brought back.   His PFF grades for 2023 and 2024 were 61.7 and 54.3, respectively.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-04-2025, 04:41 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: could be worth a look if Hill not brought back.   His PFF grades for 2023 and 2024 were 61.7 and 54.3, respectively.

Worth a look if we do lose BJ that is for sure, but don't like his grades going down...

[THE PISTONS]

You ideally want a starting DT with a rating better than 54.3.

[BenZoo2]

(03-04-2025, 05:46 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You ideally want a starting DT with a rating better than 54.3.

I’d agree.  I’m thinking more of a rotational piece and veteran experience.  

[SunsetBengal]

(03-04-2025, 08:07 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: I’d agree.  I’m thinking more of a rotational piece and veteran experience.  

We tried that guy, his name was Sheldon Rankins.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-04-2025, 05:46 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You ideally want a starting DT with a rating better than 54.3.

(03-04-2025, 08:07 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: I’d agree.  I’m thinking more of a rotational piece and veteran experience.  

DJ has put up 3.5 sacks or more every year in his 6-year NFL career.
He may be a decent vet rotational guy if they can find a spot for him in Golden's offense defense.
He's kind of a tweener at 6'3", 281 lbs.
And it looks like he hasn't played DT since his rookie year?

[*michaelsean*]

(03-04-2025, 08:29 PM)ochocincos Wrote: DJ has put up 3.5 sacks or more every year in his 6-year NFL career.
He may be a decent vet rotational guy if they can find a spot for him in Golden's offense.
He's kind of a tweener at 6'3", 281 lbs.
And it looks like he hasn't played DT since his rookie year?

Damn he’s running the offense too?

[*ochocincos*]

(03-04-2025, 08:34 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Damn he’s running the offense too?

lol yep!
gotta correct that lol

[pulses]

(03-04-2025, 05:01 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Worth a look if we do lose BJ that is for sure, but don't like his grades going down...

Rather draft a young DT early and let them play than sign a guy whose already dropping off.

[BenZoo2]

(03-04-2025, 08:26 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: We tried that guy, his name was Sheldon Rankins.

So you would be against signing any veteran dl since rankins was a bust?  

[*ochocincos*]

(03-04-2025, 08:55 PM)pulses Wrote: Rather draft a young DT early and let them play than sign a guy whose already dropping off.

I would assume the thought was still draft a DT since they need to replace Rankins, Hill, and Carter on the depth chart.
Only Jenkins and Jackson right now.
They'll need multiple more.

Would someone like Jones in addition to Kenneth Grant in Rd 1 plus Riley Mills around Rd 4-5 be enough to bolster that DL?

[SunsetBengal]

(03-04-2025, 08:57 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: So you would be against signing any veteran dl since rankins was a bust?  

No, if the guy had a better average production, I'd entertain the thought.  But from what I'm seeing on his career stats, we're likely better off sticking with BJ Hill. Hill has a much higher tackle count and about the same sack production.

[BenZoo2]

(03-04-2025, 09:04 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: No, if the guy had a better average production, I'd entertain the thought.  But from what I'm seeing on his career stats, we're likely better off sticking with BJ Hill. Hill has a much higher tackle count and about the same sack production.

Well in that case I’m glad I said he could be worth a look and not a guy we should definitely sign

[Clark W Griswold]

Yeah looks like just another guy and not really big enough or productive enough for what the Bengals need at DT.

Adams got released by the Jets. They could trade Tee for a second rounder and sign Adams for less than Higgins. They’d have a very good number 2, more cap space and an extra pick.
Not gonna happen because he will go whenever Rogers ends up and he’s 32 but hey it could work for a couple of years.

[SunsetBengal]

(03-04-2025, 09:23 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: Yeah looks like just another guy and not really big enough or productive enough for what the Bengals need at DT.

Adams got released by the Jets. They could trade Tee for a second rounder and sign Adams for less than Higgins. They’d have a very good number 2, more cap space and an extra pick.  
Not gonna happen because he will go whenever Rogers ends up and he’s 32 but hey it could work for a couple of years.

Those two have likely had a conversation or two about, "Damn bro, we had a good thing going in GB. Too bad we both got greedy and screwed it up".

[*jason*]

(03-04-2025, 09:29 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Those two have likely had a conversation or two about, "Damn bro, we had a good thing going in GB. Too bad we both got greedy and screwed it up".

I don't think Rogers had much choice. This time he was Brett Favre and Jordan Love was waiting in the wings

[pulses]

(03-04-2025, 08:59 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I would assume the thought was still draft a DT since they need to replace Rankins, Hill, and Carter on the depth chart.
Only Jenkins and Jackson right now.
They'll need multiple more.

Would someone like Jones in addition to Kenneth Grant in Rd 1 plus Riley Mills around Rd 4-5 be enough to bolster that DL?

Adam Butler DT 5 sacks each season for the last 2 years good against the run he's 30 and spotrac has him at 2.9 million value....that is cheap production.

[SunsetBengal]

(03-04-2025, 09:45 PM)pulses Wrote: Adam Butler DT  5 sacks each season for the last 2 years good against the run he's 30 and spotrac has him at 2.9 million value....that is cheap production.

His total tackles this year was a serious anomaly compared to the rest of his career. I think that I'd prefer that they just re-sign BJ Hill.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

I think the most likely 1st round scenario is still DT. Why?

1) Along with OG, it is our most glaring need.

2) We only have 2 DTs on the roster, both of whom look like rotational guys, not starters.

3) So we likely need 2 starter level guys + a rotational guy for the 5th DT.

4) Aside from Mason Graham, we'll likely have the pick of the litter on DT's at #17: Nolen, Harmon, Grant, etc. I mean, I don't think we are locked in to DT Rd1, but I'd be shocked if we don't take at least 1 before the end of Day 2, and another on Day 3 would not surprise me.

I look at the top picks, atm, as DT + DE + a wild card BPA somewhere.


But I think at least one starter level vet DT in FA is a must. Be it BJ, a vet like Calais Campbell, Poona Ford or Tart, etc. A vet +

[pulses]

(03-04-2025, 09:53 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: His total tackles this year was a serious anomaly compared to the rest of his career. I think that I'd prefer that they just re-sign BJ Hill.

BJ  Hill is gonna get 10m/yr I'd rather have the other guy for 2 yrs and say 4 or 5 million and use that other money someplace else. I like Hill but once they reach 30 the bengals dont pay big money deals as you know.