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Can't go into the draft with friggin Cordell Volson and Cody Ford as your planned starting Guards.
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(03-13-2025, 09:46 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Can't go into the draft with friggin Cordell Volson and Cody Ford as your planned starting Guards.
Or Jaxson Kirkland, though I do think he would have been starting at guard before midseason
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(03-13-2025, 09:48 PM)pally Wrote: Or Jaxson Kirkland, though I do think he would have been starting at guard before midseason
Ya never know, Kirkland could become the next Becton. (without all of the fanfare of being an early first round pick, of course)
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They always think they have the answer in-house, when someone plays relatively well at the end of the season. Then that player falls on their face and they realize they need to upgrade so they talk a good game. Except, by then, they have a new player who played well at the end of the season, so they think they have the answer in-house.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
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(03-13-2025, 09:53 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Ya never know, Kirkland could become the next Becton. (without all of the fanfare of being an early first round pick, of course)
You've been bengalized. 
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(03-13-2025, 09:44 PM)samhain Wrote: If someone is insane enough to give them want they want for Trey, then I think they could be more active.
Also, Pratt, Volson, and Stone are all conspicuously NOT cut. They can make room relatively easily.
Those three are not really obvious cut candidates, though. None are so highly paid that they couldn't be kept as backups so they can play into the comp pick formula next year. Pratt and Stone would not be terribly cheap to get upgrades for, either.
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(03-13-2025, 09:57 PM)Whatever Wrote: Those three are not really obvious cut candidates, though. None are so highly paid that they couldn't be kept as backups so they can play into the comp pick formula next year. Pratt and Stone would not be terribly cheap to get upgrades for, either.
I disagree. That may be the case in early free agency, but the guys out there now aren't going to be bank-breaking signings. They'll mostly be one year prove-it deals. Almost 200 guys have signed at this point. Maybe more.
Pratt is making 7 or 8, Stone is 6, I think and Volson is close to 3 mil. You can work with that if you really need to squeeze some money out of them.
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(03-13-2025, 09:19 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: 2 guards. Literally nothing else needs done besides the big 3. Take away one pressing need in the offensive line and then address defense in the draft and a guard if the board falls right. At this point I think we have to trade back in the 1st. Normally seems unlikely but I don't know how we fill these holes with 6 picks.
You cannot. That is just another reason why the Big 3 deals + Joe's restructure needed done prior to FA frenzy. We could have signed a couple more guys.
However, if we land Jenkins, I think we can come close. At least on the big ones.
Big needs: starting G, DE, pass rushing DT.
Moderate needs: TE1, S
Would be nice: CB1, LB2, OT depth, slot WR, RB
If you buy Burks, then LB2 is not really a priority. You can argue Perine takes RB off the board. Ditto with Gesicki & slot WR. Not saying I do, stick with me.
Take those off the board and whatcdo you have? G, DT/3T, DE (probably Day 1-2 picks)
S, TE (maybe higher if the board falls right)
CB/OT depth
That is 7 picks. If we can land 2 Ga, or a G + another spot in FA, then it gets easier.
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(03-13-2025, 09:55 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: They always think they have the answer in-house, when someone plays relatively well at the end of the season. Then that player falls on their face and they realize they need to upgrade so they talk a good game. Except, by then, they have a new player who played well at the end of the season, so they think they have the answer in-house.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
They cut 2 guys so far Cappa and Rankins. Forced one into retirement Hubbard so not so sure your analalgy is valid in 2025. When was the last time the team cleared 30 million in cap space before FA started>
I will answer, it is NEVER.
Please use 2025 free agency to fix the trenches, not the draft!!!!!!!!
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So we gonna have 2 rookies starting at guard?
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(03-13-2025, 10:39 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: They cut 2 guys so far Cappa and Rankins. Forced one into retirement Hubbard so not so sure your analalgy is valid in 2025. When was the last time the team cleared 30 million in cap space before FA started>
I will answer, it is NEVER.
That has nothing to do with not signing a somewhat proven guard, while having Volson, Kirkland and Ford as the current top options.
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(03-13-2025, 10:47 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: That has nothing to do with not signing a somewhat proven guard, while having Volson, Kirkland and Ford as the current top options.
I am as frustrated as most are we have yet to address guard. It is day 2 of FA and I have not given up hope. There are some proven vets abailable, all better than Cappa who started every game in 2024 and was beyond bad, Ford and Volson.
I will be more frustrtaed to start seeing Jenkins, Becton (ain't over til it over), Risner, Scherff, Hernandez and others sign elsewhere.
I disagree with fans who think we do not have the cap. The Ravens created more cap today from a restructure of Humphrey adding voiding years to his contract (pushing th cap to later years). The Bengals have a ton of room to create more cap space and if they don't use all the available tools they are foolish.
Not over yet, so I will reserve judgement when the Bengals head to training camp in late July so be able to debate their off season once it has ended for the most part.
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(03-13-2025, 06:53 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: So bengals having a crazy asking price for their star? Well no shit.
Brian Burns got traded last year after an 8 sack season and was franchise tagged. The panthers got #39 and moved up in the 5th swapping places and a 5th for 2025 draft. He has had double digit sacks once in his career. And they had to give him a giant contract.
They are going to be stubborn and not give him away for cheap. And I don’t blame them.
The reason the asking price is so high is because we don't want to lose him. This has been obvious from the start. Now, if someone wants to make a Herschel Walker or Ricky Williams lopsided trade offer? Sure, OK. But we are not interested in a fair trade for Trey. Only a super lopsided one.
He & Chase are under contract. Tee has been tagged. I wish we'd have done this last year, or earlier this year. It would have been cheaper and we'd have more cap room. And perhaps Burrow's reatructure is contingent on these extensions?
We still have arounf $20 mil in cap. There are still some good FA's out there. Let's,get thesexdeals done and upgrade at guard for sure. And maybe more if we free more space.
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(03-13-2025, 10:12 PM)samhain Wrote: I disagree. That may be the case in early free agency, but the guys out there now aren't going to be bank-breaking signings. They'll mostly be one year prove-it deals. Almost 200 guys have signed at this point. Maybe more.
Pratt is making 7 or 8, Stone is 6, I think and Volson is close to 3 mil. You can work with that if you really need to squeeze some money out of them.
Volson made 985K last year, and basically doubled his salary with the Incentive Program. So less than 2 million
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Looks like there is rumblings of Brandon Scherff.
Let’s see if this plays out.
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Scherff makes sense given the relationship with the new Oline coach. Just not sure if he has enough left in the tank.
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(03-14-2025, 09:29 AM)jj22 Wrote: Scherff makes sense given the relationship with the new Oline coach. Just not sure if he has enough left in the tank.
If they could get Teven and Scherff, that would be a win. Just Scherff would be meh. Scherff as your”weak spot” would be a good problem.
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(03-14-2025, 09:27 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: Looks like there is rumblings of Brandon Scherff.
Let’s see if this plays out.
Where is this being reported?
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