Craig Woodson

[Tlawsonmariat82]

Everytime I watch film on this the more I absolutely love this kid..Most outlets I've seen has on average between a 4th and 6th rd grade on him,but when I watch him the one knock he constantly dispelled was that he doesn't have deep speed or fluid change of direction..whoever wrote that scouting report should be fired on the spot, this is why you beef up scouting department for kids like this that could be really special..

From what I see when I watch film is a very fluid athlete with good anticipation, and a solid eye for route combinations, he's also a good open space tackler,he almost always got the ball carrier to the ground in open space situations..Woodson ran a 4.45 40 so the scout questioning his long speed is wrong..my overall assessment is this is a good football player with good football IQ my honest comp for this guy was Jessie bates crazy to say but that's exactly who he reminds me of..

[*ochocincos*]

Damn this dude been in college since 2019.
Dude is 24 years old already.

Sounds like a dude maybe worth taking a flier on Day 3 if they haven't added a safety before then.

[Luvnit2]

(04-16-2025, 02:18 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Damn this dude been in college since 2019.
Dude is 24 years old already.

Sounds like a dude maybe worth taking a flier on Day 3 if they haven't added a safety before then.

There are more older draft prospects, some say due. to NIL (getting paid to play in college) and also some due to Covid extra eligibility.

The DT class has several 23 and 24 year olds 

As for this guy, he may be great, the problem is with 6 picks makes it harder to find the needle in the haystack

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

I don't know if I watched this guy play. What team was he on and is he related to Charles are my questions?

[SunsetBengal]

(04-16-2025, 02:18 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Damn this dude been in college since 2019.
Dude is 24 years old already.

Sounds like a dude maybe worth taking a flier on Day 3 if they haven't added a safety before then.

The average length of an NFL career is 3.3 years. I find nothing wrong with guys staying in school and getting as much developmental coaching as they can and being fully mature physically when they enter the league.

[*ochocincos*]

(04-16-2025, 04:33 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The average length of an NFL career is 3.3 years. I find nothing wrong with guys staying in school and getting as much developmental coaching as they can and being fully mature physically when they enter the league.

Yea when you factor in the bad players.

But if you're going into the draft just expecting to get 3-4 years out of players, that's not the right mentality, IMO.

Every draft pick whether 1st round or 7th round should be with a vision to get into a multi-year 2nd contract, even if they just end up as a depth/ST player.

With that said, yes a 24 year old, if good enough, should be able to stick around the league for a multi-year 2nd contract, as that would get them to about 30 years old.

My main concern with 24 year olds entering the league is were they just doing well in college because they are going against dudes 4-5 years younger than them in some/many cases? And how much more growth are they going to have, as that's typically the age NFL players hit their peak physical growth?

Woodson might be about as capped out and ready as he'll ever be.
And that may be good for some circumstances because you may want someone who's ready immediately.
But if you want or need further growth beyond what they are now, you may not get much more.

[SunsetBengal]

(04-16-2025, 06:13 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Yea when you factor in the bad players.

But if you're going into the draft just expecting to get 3-4 years out of players, that's not the right mentality, IMO.

Every draft pick whether 1st round or 7th round should be with a vision to get into a multi-year 2nd contract, even if they just end up as a depth/ST player.

With that said, yes a 24 year old, if good enough, should be able to stick around the league for a multi-year 2nd contract, as that would get them to about 30 years old.

My main concern with 24 year olds entering the league is were they just doing well in college because they are going against dudes 4-5 years younger than them in some/many cases? And how much more growth are they going to have, as that's typically the age NFL players hit their peak physical growth?

Woodson might be about as capped out and ready as he'll ever be.
And that may be good for some circumstances because you may want someone who's ready immediately.
But if you want or need further growth beyond what they are now, you may not get much more.

In this day and age with the way the CBA is written, position coaches simply do not get enough hands-on time with the players to finish their development. Prior to NIL there were guys coming out early that really could have benefitted from another year of College coaching, simply because of financial reasons. Now that money is less of an issue for players still in school, I think that it's great that more of them are opting to stay their Senior year of eligibility. Obviously there are superstars that clearly head and shoulder above most of their contemporaries, and they rightfully should declare early and enter the draft after 3 years in order to maximize their NFL earning lifetimes.

Every year 256 players get drafted, plus UDFAs. NFL 53 man roster spot total 1,696 jobs, and an additional maximum allotment of 512 unsecured positions on practice squads. There simply aren't that many openings for jobs on teams each year, in order for every guy wanting to enter the league to find a job, let alone stick around for 10-12 years. The overall quality of play in the league will benefit from guys being fully developed when they reach the professional level.

[*ochocincos*]

(04-16-2025, 06:39 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: In this day and age with the way the CBA is written, position coaches simply do not get enough hands-on time with the players to finish their development. Prior to NIL there were guys coming out early that really could have benefitted from another year of College coaching, simply because of financial reasons. Now that money is less of an issue for players still in school, I think that it's great that more of them are opting to stay their Senior year of eligibility. Obviously there are superstars that clearly head and shoulder above most of their contemporaries, and they rightfully should declare early and enter the draft after 3 years in order to maximize their NFL earning lifetimes.

Every year 256 players get drafted, plus UDFAs. NFL 53 man roster spot total 1,696 jobs, and an additional maximum allotment of 512 unsecured positions on practice squads. There simply aren't that many openings for jobs on teams each year, in order for every guy wanting to enter the league to find a job, let alone stick around for 10-12 years. The overall quality of play in the league will benefit from guys being fully developed when they reach the professional level.

That NIL money really isn't much though for guys who are likely going to get drafted Rd 5 or later I would think, right?

If a player is coming out at 24 years old though, I am most likely going to be going into that evaluation thinking what I see now is what I'm likely getting in the NFL.

Heck, look at Volson, who entered the league at 23 years old and turned 24 by the time the season started. He hasn't really developed much at all. Is (or seems) the same guy he was as a rookie as he is now entering his 4th season.

[Clark W Griswold]

(04-16-2025, 04:30 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I don't know if I watched this guy play. What team was he on and is he related to Charles are my questions?

From what I can find he is not related to Charles or even Rod.

I haven’t seen or heard about him but drafting a DB named Woodson seems like a good idea.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(04-16-2025, 11:52 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: From what I can find he is not related to Charles or even Rod.

I haven’t seen or heard about him but drafting a DB named Woodson seems like a good idea.

Thanks Clark. What team was he on was my other question? 

This way I can pinpoint the player a bit. Hate it when people just bring up some random dude out of literally thousands of college players 
and expect you to know who the dude is lol

[SunsetBengal]

(04-17-2025, 12:59 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Thanks Clark. What team was he on was my other question? 

This way I can pinpoint the player a bit. Hate it when people just bring up some random dude out of literally thousands of college players 
and expect you to know who the dude is lol

I had to look him up.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/craig-woodson/3200574f-4f66-2980-96c6-36b32e94386d

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(04-17-2025, 01:08 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I had to look him up.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/craig-woodson/3200574f-4f66-2980-96c6-36b32e94386d

Thanks Sunset. Craig Woodson, Safety, California - Looks like this guy makes plays, gets ints, rangy, playmaker, good in coverage, but as 
Ochocincos says is older. 4.45 forty doesn't mean he has long speed, but from the film it looks like he does.

I like this guy as a 5th or 6th round pick if we don't get a Malaki Starks, Emmanwori or Xavier Watts earlier honestly.

[Tlawsonmariat82]

Woodson definitely passes the eye test for me, especially his ability to recognize route concepts, this kid has high football IQ and good football instincts plus he's a very good tackler...

[SunsetBengal]

(04-18-2025, 07:49 PM)Tlawsonmariat82 Wrote: Woodson definitely passes the eye test for me, especially his ability to recognize route concepts, this kid has high football IQ and good football instincts plus he's a very good tackler...

The team could do much worse in drafting the replacements for our current back of the roster/STs Safeties. His missed tackle rate is in the single digits, which is better than most of the day 1 candidates.

[Tlawsonmariat82]

(04-18-2025, 08:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The team could do much worse in drafting the replacements for our current back of the roster/STs Safeties. His missed tackle rate is in the single digits, which is better than most of the day 1 candidates.

I think he's an upgrade over stone,battle and Anthony..If we somehow got lucky enough to select this guy I would let him compete for the starting job give him a look in the preseason..