Moss restructures final year of contract

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 03:12 PM)J24 Wrote: They were all different type of RBs though. Moss and Perine do the same thing as 3rd backs.

Perinne is a long term pro, has never been a starting caliber back. But Moss started for us in 2024 and his stats are much better than Sam. I love Sam, but he is a 3rd down back, I think a good one, but I would be very concerned if Brown went dowb and we obnly had Perrine to carry the load for weeks or the rest of teh season.

I see as a 3rd down back, I see moss capable of being a 3 down RB.if needed.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Yesterday, 07:24 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: But Moss started for us in 2024 and his stats are much better than Sam.

I see as a 3rd down back, I see moss capable of being a 3 down RB.if needed.

Are we just ignoring that Moss ran for 3.3ypc (if qualified, would be 41st out of 42 RBs with 40th being .3ypc better) and a pathetic 1.0 yards after contact (if qualified, would be 42nd out of 42 RBs with 41st being 0.6 yards better)?

Moss wasn't just bad, he was EXTRMELY bad last year. There wasn't just a gap, but a gulf between him and anyone even slightly resembling a starting caliber RB.

[Essex Johnson]

(Yesterday, 11:56 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Don't like it. Zack Moss was supposed to be a great pass protector and he wasn't even good at it last season before he went down.

We can do better, this Draft has tons of talent at RB and I was hoping to take a RB mid to late, but this might make this not happen.

so a part of a year, cancels multiple years, if we did that thinking we be cutting people left and right, i rather keep him and invest a pick on a higher need, give me a CB or even a TE over a late round RB

[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

I don't think that he'll make it out of camp.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 09:05 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Are we just ignoring that Moss ran for 3.3ypc (if qualified, would be 41st out of 42 RBs with 40th being .3ypc better) and a pathetic 1.0 yards after contact (if qualified, would be 42nd out of 42 RBs with 41st being 0.6 yards better)?

Moss wasn't just bad, he was EXTRMELY bad last year. There wasn't just a gap, but a gulf between him and anyone even slightly resembling a starting caliber RB.

I think Mixon showed in Texas he was a very good RB. Yet, if I recall without lookig it up, he has a bad YPC average and rushing TD average when a Bengal.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 10:25 PM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: I don't think that he'll make it out of camp.

I hope you are wrong, he just got a great guaranteed contract for 2025 when he had a little guarantee prior.

[XsandOs]

I feel its important to consider HOW a RB is used - first, second or third down.

As a runner, he was brought here to deploy in between tackle first down runs, which for a lack of a better term, are cannon fodder runs to establish a pattern in play calling.

He is not Edgerin James or Marshall Faulk, but if with better interior blocking he gets us in 2nd and 6 situations, he will have done his job.

He is a veteran with a year of familiarity in our system, who can catch and block

I am not arguing against other board members, but just making a point that there is value in having him on the roster this year. 

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Today, 12:40 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I think Mixon showed in Texas he was a very good RB. Yet, if I recall without lookig it up, he has a bad YPC average and rushing TD average when a Bengal.

Joe Mixon 2023 YPC: 4.0
Joe Mixon 2024 YPC: 4.1

On 309 touches he had 1410 total yards and 12 total TDs at 4.6 yards per touch as a Bengal in 2023.
On 281 touches he had 1325 total yards and 12 total TDs at 4.7 yards per touch as a Texan in 2024.

He had nearly the exact same touch-for-touch production.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(Today, 12:40 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I think Mixon showed in Texas he was a very good RB. Yet, if I recall without lookig it up, he has a bad YPC average and rushing TD average when a Bengal.

Mixon's first 6 or 8 games he was top 3 in stats across the league, then completely and utterly fell off a cliff in the 2nd half (probably the reason the Texans were shitty in the second half) of the season.

As TLL wrote above, his year ended up being not much different than a typical year here.

He was Juan Samuel 1991.

[THE PISTONS]

(2 hours ago)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Joe Mixon 2023 YPC: 4.0
Joe Mixon 2024 YPC: 4.1

On 309 touches he had 1410 total yards and 12 total TDs at 4.6 yards per touch as a Bengal in 2023.
On 281 touches he had 1325 total yards and 12 total TDs at 4.7 yards per touch as a Texan in 2024.

He had nearly the exact same touch-for-touch production.

Yep. And the year before 3.9 ypc, and the year before that 4.1 ypc.

Why does everyone think he had an amazing year with the Texans? Because he had some big games. 159 yards in the opener.

He did that here. He'd have a bunch of average to low yard games, then have a game where he rushes for 153 yards on 22 carries and his average would look much better.

[jj22]

Ok so no RB drafted. If we (fans) were ok with spending 2 of the 6 picks on offense (RB, OG) does that mean WR is in play? Should it?

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(20 minutes ago)jj22 Wrote: Ok so no RB drafted. If we (fans) were ok with spending 2 of the 6 picks on offense (RB, OG) does that mean WR is in play? Should it?

I hope not and it shouldn't. I think having Chase and Tee (who we don't have even 1 of at RB or OG) means you can't rightfully spend a 1st or 2nd round pick on WR, and anything later than that probably isn't going to really contribute greatly this year and after two straight years of missing the playoffs you NEED to be about winning this year. If you feel you need some help at WR this year just go sign Tyler Lockett or Tyler Boyd for a year and save those draft picks for other positions.