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Browns complete second interview with Hue; expected to make him a formal offer
#61
I'm confident in Hue...to an extent. I'm skeptical the Browns will make the most of him, though. Remember, the Raiders took a big step backwards once they canned him and they'd be in serious trouble had they not gotten a bit of a steal in Carr.
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(01-13-2016, 03:53 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Mike Brown held on to CP until he got strong value.    He traded for Reggie Nelson and gave up next to nothing.     However you feel about him the guy wins negotiations.

Mike Brown held on to CP to win an argument at the cost of the players who remained.  If Al Davis doesn't keel over and if Jason Campbell doesn't get hurt we don't get anything for CP.  And guess what happens to Mike Brown if he plays it tough and ends up getting nothing for Carson?

NOTHING.  Nothing happens, because he's the owner.  Say what you want about his ability to negotioate, BUT he answers to no one when he's wrong.  And he's been pretty wrong over the years.  Unless you think his "negotiation power" of refusing to give Bill Cowher any personnel control, thus landing us Dave Shula, is some sort of admirable, no-nonsense decider kind of pap.

Do you admire all the stupid crap Jerry Jones does because no one is allowed to argue with him, too?
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(01-13-2016, 02:46 AM)wildcats forever Wrote: Maybe Hue isn't delivering all that the owners want during these interviews. A personality clash with the wrong person on the interview team, and the interest drops enough keep looking, at least for another couple of candidates for comparison's sake. Who knows?

It's possible. That's what happened with Mike Zimmer. He interviewed in places but his personality and vision didn't seem to sit well with certain teams.

Plus, Hue will probably want full control over his team. So Hue may want to build his own franchise, which is why Cleveland could make sense. 2nd pick and 32nd pick. He can build it from the ground up how he wants it.
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You can't just want any head coaching job, it looks bad. You need to find the right head job. For Hue, I'd imagine that would be the Giants. Everyone wants the challenge of the Browns, but they're in such a huge disarray and they have way worse luck than Cincy does.
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(01-13-2016, 04:14 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Lighten up guys.

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(01-13-2016, 01:33 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I've been wondering why he'd want Cleveland and Manziel over the Giants and Eli Manning. On it's surface it's hard to imagine why he'd prefer Cleveland, but if you really think about it...

1. Hue, like most coaches, probably wants to pick his QB. He'll get that chance in Cleveland. Not in NY. ELI IS BETTER THAN ANYONE HE COULD BRING IN
2. The Browns have the 2nd overall pick and the 32nd pick. NO TOP SHELF QBs IN THIS DRAFT
3. The Browns are probably offering everything and anything to land Hue. All the power he'd possibly want. NO CONTROL OVER THE 53 MAN ROSTER, THAT POWER GOES TO A GUY NAMED SHASI WITH THREE YEARS OF FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE, ALL WITH CLEVELAND AND THE OWNER THERE HAS MADE DRAFT SELECTIONS
4. The Giants have a lame duck GM. If he gets replaced with a new GM, the new GM would want a new HC. GIANTS ARE A STABLE ORGANIZATION
5. He'd get to stay in the AFCN. He's probably very comfortable in this division from his time with the Bengals and Ravens. AND BE THE LAST PLACE GUY FOR YEARS TO COME AS THERE ARE THREE OTHER GOOD TEAMS AND CLEVELAND AIN'T ONE OF THEM
6. Lower expectations. The Giants probably expect championship level football. The Browns would erect a statue of Hue if he goes 9-7.
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