Stewart is signed!

[kevin]

(Yesterday, 01:19 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Whatever dude, you just like to argue to argue. Yeah, they could sign you, you'd last all of one play. The situation with Stewart now under contract is not as desperate as it was with Stewart and Hendrickson not signed. You can argue that all you want, but you're wasting your time.

You are correct Sled21...I just posted that getting Stewart into training camp is huge.  Stewart was one of the Top recruits in USA out of high school.  He got double teamed in college, but still had a lot of QB pressures, plus often he played DT.   In college you can double team somebody, not as easy in NFL because the uncovered NFL player will kill you. Golden loves that the #1 draft pick can play DE. DT and some LB, and Golden says he wants versatility so NFL QB's can't catch them in the wrong defenses. This Stewart is a Beast, but now to get the rookie Coached Up by Golden.  Look for him to be one of the best rookies in the NFL.  Bring On The Stew.....GO BENGALS. ....Again, Coach Taylor loved 5 or 6 DB's most of game.  Coach Golden says he will use 3 or 4 LBs at times, and why he needed the very versatile first 2 picks on defense.  Coach Golden is NOT going to sit in the Nickle and Dime DB packages all game like Coach Taylor has done, and Coach Golden will be more Front 7 able to move and adjust and get after QB's and RB's more.  More Aggressive D Packages out of Golden coming.  

[Soonerpeace]

(Yesterday, 12:58 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: No doubt, none of current DE's have proven ability to sack the QB. No doubt you don't just replace the sack leader and very likely hurt our sack totals. If Trey i snot here, simply whether one of a combination from the DL need to step up on passing downs. Our interior pass rush n 2024 was almost non existent, we need Jenkins and Hill to be much better creating pressure and sacks.

I mentioned Stewart may go inside on passing downs. Will he be able to get more push than our starting DT's? Maybe

The goal is to imorove pressures and sack totals from 2024. It will take a villiage if no Trey to accomplish it.

Stewart was #1 in all of college football in first to pressure rate.. His combine results 4.59 40 but this was huge the #4 of everyone vertical of 40” at 265 lbs. He will make a lot of backside tackles of Lamar. He will likely be our best DE run stopper day 1. If he can improve on finishing sacks he’s a steal. We had to improve there in run defense. Why Slaton & Knight too. Baltimore & Philly #1 & #2 in rush offense. Last I looked they are the top 2 or 3 teams. The great edge rushers are specimens. Stewart is all that. Just needs refinement.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Yesterday, 01:19 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Whatever dude, you just like to argue to argue. Yeah, they could sign you, you'd last all of one play. The situation with Stewart now under contract is not as desperate as it was with Stewart and Hendrickson not signed. You can argue that all you want, but you're wasting your time.

Agreed, I wouldn't stand a chance. So I would finish with just as many sacks as Myles Murphy had last year.

Without Hendrickson, we have the worst DE room in the league. Even with Stewart in the fold now.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 02:27 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Agreed, I wouldn't stand a chance. So I would finish with just as many sacks as Myles Murphy had last year.

Without Hendrickson, we have the worst DE room in the league. Even with Stewart in the fold now.

Can you let us know how to measure if you are correct? Is it PFF against the run and pass or another source?

You may be correct they are #32, I would just like to know by the criteria used to determine if you are correct.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

An extra $500K up front minus 37% tax would allow him to pay cash for a $315K house for his mom saving over $400K in interest on a 30 year mortgage assuming an interest rate of 7%.

A potential savings of > $400K seems like a win to me if you’re giving a client financial advice.

[Destro]

Great news. Needs to live at the facility, like Chad.

[007BengalsFan]

(Yesterday, 02:47 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: An extra $500K up front minus 37% tax would allow him to pay cash for a $315K house for his mom saving over $400K in interest on a 30 year mortgage assuming an interest rate of 7%.

A potential savings of > $400K semis like a win to me if you’re giving a client financial advice.

It's not an extra 500k.  It's 500k that instead of getting payed in Decemember, he gets in August.  He was already getting this money as part of his 10.4 million dollar signing bonus, he just gets 500k of that money 4 months earlier.

[007BengalsFan]

Good to see Stewart signed. His agent did him no favors and looks bad on this one. I dont think Stewarts agent actually realized how many NFL teams had the conduct clause in their contracts. Once it became clear how many other teams have already used this clause and the Bengals were one of the last teams to start using it, there was nothing Stewarts agent could do other than to work out a deal to save face. There is absolutely no reason this contract couldnt have been done weeks ago.

[Gohards]

(Yesterday, 03:08 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: His agent did him no favors and looks bad on this one.

You know youre a nobody agent when the best client you have is Zay flowers. Im not even sure zay flowers would be wr #4 on our depth chart

Edit: zay flowers, not zay jones

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(Yesterday, 02:59 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: It's not an extra 500k.  It's 500k that instead of getting payed in Decemember, he gets in August.  He was already getting this money as part of his 10.4 million dollar signing bonus, he just gets 500k of that money 4 months earlier.

So at the least an interest free pay day loan instead of contacting Check into Cash. It’s his money and he wants it now.

[NUGDUKWE]

(Yesterday, 03:23 PM)Gohards Wrote: You know youre a nobody agent when the best client you have is Zay flowers. Im not even sure zay flowers would be wr #4 on our depth chart

Edit: zay flowers, not zay jones

Zay Flowers would most certainly be our #3 WR. I really think hes probably equal to Higgins but with different skill sets. He's a 1B like Higgins they can both be the #1 but you probably want a bit more.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Yesterday, 02:39 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Can you let us know how to measure if you are correct? Is it PFF against the run and pass or another source?

You may be correct they are #32, I would just like to know by the criteria used to determine if you are correct.

Officially and definitively? No. But neither can I objectively say that Burrow being a top-3 QB is "correct"... but we have eyes and there's plenty of stats to back up the opinion.

Murphy and Ossai combined for 5.0 sacks last year. (Stewart had 1.5 in college) In 2023, they combined for 4.0 sacks (with Stewart having another 1.5 in college). I am just going go go out on a limb (I feel like this is a safe assumption in this case) and assume that 6.5 combined sacks last year would be the least by any team's top-3 DEs seeing as how even the worst team in the league in sacks still had 28 sacks and there were 49 players who had at least 6.5 sacks on their own last year. Heck, 94 players who had at least 5.0 sacks last year on their own. That's exactly 3 per team on average if you remove us with our 1 (Ossai).

And while Murphy is a solid tackler in a small sample size, Ossai missed 13.2% of his tackles last year and has a career rate of 11.0%, so it's not even like they're both really good tacklers to make up for the lack of sacks.

If you care about PFF at all, neither were in the top-64 edge players (85th and 90th) despite currently being in-line to be our starters.

You put those three up against everyone else's top-3 DEs in one of Bfine's "rate the group" threads and send that around the league and they are dead last.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 03:23 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: So at the least an interest free pay day loan instead of contacting Check into Cash. It’s his money and he wants it now.

He is not required any taxes upfront so he can buy her a $500K if he wanted, he pays taxes in 2026 for his 2025 income.

A better argument is he could make money off of the 4 months of extra interest he earned on the 500K. I have savings accounts that I get 6.5% interest so sure he could get a bank to give him a great deal. $500K at 6.5% interest would net $32,500 for a full year so if 4 months or 1/3, he makes almost $11K off just the $500K he received now versus in December.

He will have a huge tax bill in 2026 either way.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Yesterday, 03:23 PM)Gohards Wrote: You know youre a nobody agent when the best client you have is Zay flowers. Im not even sure zay flowers would be wr #4 on our depth chart

Edit: zay flowers, not zay jones

You aren't sure if a guy who got >1k yards and went to the Pro Bowl in just his second year in the NFL would even be our #4 WR? ....Seriously? 

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 03:42 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Officially and definitively? No. But neither can I objectively say that Burrow being a top-3 QB is "correct"... but we have eyes and there's plenty of stats to back up the opinion.

Murphy and Ossai combined for 5.0 sacks last year. (Stewart had 1.5 in college) In 2023, they combined for 4.0 sacks (with Stewart having another 1.5 in college). I am just going go go out on a limb (I feel like this is a safe assumption in this case) and assume that 6.5 combined sacks last year would be the least by any team's top-3 DEs seeing as how even the worst team in the league in sacks still had 28 sacks and there were 49 players who had at least 6.5 sacks on their own last year. Heck, 94 players who had at least 5.0 sacks last year on their own. That's exactly 3 per team on average if you remove us with our 1 (Ossai).

And while Murphy is a solid tackler in a small sample size, Ossai missed 13.2% of his tackles last year and has a career rate of 11.0%, so it's not even like they're both really good tacklers to make up for the lack of sacks.

If you care about PFF at all, neither were in the top-64 edge players (85th and 90th) despite currently being in-line to be our starters.

You put those three up against everyone else's top-3 DEs in one of Bfine's "rate the group" threads and send that around the league and they are dead last.

You said they are the worst. I don't agree and want to know what you feel is fair to quantify your opinion. I am not questioning the DE's we have without Trey do not have QB sacks or pressures. I get you using the past for your prediction. I want to know how we can decide in the future if your prediction was accurate or not.

Of course if Trey gets back before week 1, I would assume you would update your opinion on them.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 03:39 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Zay Flowers would most certainly be our #3 WR. I really think hes probably equal to Higgins but with different skill sets. He's a 1B like Higgins they can both be the #1 but you probably want a bit more.

???????????

I like Flowers and feel he would be a beast as our #3 WR.

[Gohards]

(Yesterday, 03:39 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Zay Flowers would most certainly be our #3 WR. I really think hes probably equal to Higgins but with different skill sets. He's a 1B like Higgins they can both be the #1 but you probably want a bit more.

(Yesterday, 03:48 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: You aren't sure if a guy who got >1k yards and went to the Pro Bowl in just his second year in the NFL would even be our #4 WR? ....Seriously? 

(Yesterday, 03:53 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: ???????????

I like Flowers and feel he would be a beast as our #3 WR.

He had less TDs than our #3 WR last year and hes the ravens #1. Yeah he had more yards, but i would almost certainly bet if jamarr and tee were out all year and yoshi was our wr #1 all year, he would definitely have more than 1100 yards, and his touchdowns would at minimum double those of flowers.

Flowers had 4 rec touchdowns all year as a #1. Sorry, thats sad.

WR #5 may be a stretch just because we dont know about who Burton is, but he wouldn’t be #3. Id be less surprised if he was #5 than if he was #3

[kevin]

How in the heck did just signing Bengals #1 pick and D Lineman turn into a Ravens Flowers thread ???? Bengals have Chase, Higgins, Iosivas and others including many talented TE's. Bengals have plenty of Offense and are trying to build a Defense.  Defense is what they need, and Stewart now signed helps.

[*pally*]

We have signed our first-round draft pick DE Shemar Stewart.

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— Cincinnati Bengals (@Bengals) July 26, 2025

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 06:24 PM)pally Wrote:

We have signed our first-round draft pick DE Shemar Stewart.

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— Cincinnati Bengals (@Bengals) July 26, 2025

I hope he looks like wants to kill someone because it is Lamar Jackson he wants to kill and not MB or Katie.