Moritz Boehringer = Future Bengal

[CageTheBengal]

(04-01-2016, 03:49 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Why is this a joke thread.. This is a prospect to be excited about if taken at the right spot  ie later rounds.

He would be someone i would think be worth the risk of taking a flyer on.

hunt was going in the 2nd round.    or at the latest would have been gone before our 3rd round pick


if this was an April fools joke you need better punchline.

You either thought it was funny or you didn't. Not really worth my time to explain it in great detail. I didn't think it would be such an issue for some people. For all I know The Unicorn might be the greatest wideout to ever play in the NFL.

Obviously it wasn't an April Fools joke because I wasn't trying to fool anybody.

[Bengal Dude]

(04-01-2016, 12:38 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Perfect description of Ziggy Ansah.

Guess you thought the Lions were crazy to draft him also, right?

[wolfkaosaun]

(04-01-2016, 12:38 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Perfect description of Ziggy Ansah.

Guess you thought the Lions were crazy to draft him also, right?

Difference between a guy who played in a college level with other NFL caliber players than someone who's playing against other players that aren't going to be in the NFL.

But that's okay.  Keep reaching for similarities when there's bigger differences.

[Bengalzona]

I'm not sold on this guy just on the basis or workouts. Seen too many "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" types come along. We'll see.

[magikod]

(04-01-2016, 05:07 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: I'm not sold on this guy just on the basis or workouts. Seen too many "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" types come along. We'll see.

[OrlandoBengal]

This is exactly the type of guy who comes to camp ever year and the message boards go wild... "so and so from Outer BFE State is a BEAST, he is unstoppable. Sure, he hasn't played much and doesn't really know the game, but this guy is making the 53 for sure and will definitely be first team All Pro by his second year". Then when he inevitably gets cut it is follow up with "he was just a training camp body, good riddance, glad to see him go". The only problem is when these guys get taken early, because as has already been mentioned, you would hope a second round pick could see the field and contribute at some point...

Does anyone actually remember on of these "project players" actually working out for the Bengals? Serious question, because I can't.

[Au165]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000649267/article/incredible-pro-day-puts-german-moritz-boehringer-on-nfl-radar

So what started as joke to some here, may be reality (or maybe should). Apparently many teams came away very impressed with his pro day. They even asked him to try some TE blocking he'd never done, but he figured it out quickly. The guy could be a middle rounder to some.

Honestly someone that big who can run that fast, I'd give it a go and see if he can be a deep ball specialist.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(04-01-2016, 03:12 PM)Benton Wrote: That's a valid point. I guess I should say, I thought he was a reach. I thought Hunt was more of a fourth round guy — looks good on a middle of the pack football team and has some physical attributes, but doesn't have everything you're looking for in player or from a school that has that kind of turnover with good players. He may have looked good at SMU, but Emmanuel Sanders is the only other guy in the NFL I can think of from there.

And no, being from a school like LSU or USC or OSU doesn't automatically mean they'll play in the NFL, or that small schools don't occasionally produce great players, but the draft is playing the odds. And when the bulk of the players in the league come from 19-20 schools, the odds are better they'll give you a player that's going to be able to play at the NFL level than a school that's got three or four guys.

You weren't the only one either, even some scouting agencies had him pegged as a fourth rounder.....


AS for this guy, a better comparison may be Reynoldo Niemiah?  Except he was a sprinter that had never played, if memory serves.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(04-01-2016, 05:43 PM)Wyche Wrote: You weren't the only one either, even some scouting agencies had him pegged as a fourth rounder.....


AS for this guy, a better comparison may be Reynoldo Niemiah?  Except he was a sprinter that had never played, if memory serves.

Also I simply don't think I could ever want to take a 26-year-old in the 2nd round regardless of everything else.

Even if they work out, their contract is 4 years and then when they become a FA when the next season they'll be 30. Will they decline? How many years do you give them? Are you willing to gamble they won't decline as fast as normal? Also, how much money will they want? If they're getting their 30-year-old contract, it's probably their last chance at a good payday.

It's more or less the same reason I laughed at the Browns taking Brandon Weeden in the 1st round. Even if he was good, how long could he realistically be good for? QB's age better than every position that's not a K or P, but still. He's only played 4 years in the NFL and he's already heading into his age 33 season.


Case and point.. Carlos Dunlap was a 2nd round pick. He's played 6 years in the NFL, TWICE as long as Hunt. Dunlap is still only heading into his age 27 season. Hunt is heading into his age 29 season.

[SunsetBengal]

FWIW, I saw the humor.  Not sure why others would want to be a stick in the mud about it..

[Bengalholic]

(04-01-2016, 02:00 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: Get the stick out of your ass Fred maybe you can go beat a gopher with it

(04-01-2016, 02:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote:   You were all salty when you told me to take the stick out of my ass

[fredtoast]

(04-01-2016, 05:25 PM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: Does anyone actually remember on of these "project players" actually working out for the Bengals?  Serious question, because I can't.

Stacy Andrews was a track athlete who only played a handful of snaps in college.

Ethan Kilmer was another track star drafted based on hi athletic ability.  He flashed some good plays but ended up with injury issues.

How many players do you consider "projects" that we have taken?  I really can't think of many at all.

[fredtoast]

(04-01-2016, 04:51 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Difference between a guy who played in a college level with other NFL caliber players than someone who's playing against other players that aren't going to be in the NFL.

But that's okay.  Keep reaching for similarities when there's bigger differences.

Don't know why you quoted my post.  I was not the one who came up with the description.

[fredtoast]

(04-01-2016, 07:35 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: FWIW, I saw the humor.  Not sure why others would want to be a stick in the mud about it..

It is like telling a joke about how stupid a certain race of people are.  The only way it seems funny is if you also think that race of people are stupid.

Since some of us see nothing stupid in doing what every other team in the league does we don't see any humor in it.  

[yellowxdiscipline]

Joking aside this dude is the WR version of Margus Hunt. He'd be a project.

[SunsetBengal]

(04-01-2016, 10:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It is like telling a joke about how stupid a certain race of people are.  The only way it seems funny is if you also think that race of people are stupid.

Since some of us see nothing stupid in doing what every other team in the league does we don't see any humor in it.  

Well, to be fair.  The NFL did try a league in Europe, remember that?  And while most European players can't hang with bonafide NFL talent, I feel like the joke is fair.  I sensed no derogatory undertones toward European folk, as a people.  Why did you?

[magikod]

(04-01-2016, 05:07 PM)yellowxdiscipline Wrote: Joking aside this dude is the WR version of Margus Hunt. He'd be a project.

So draft him in the 2nd round? rofl

[fredtoast]

(04-01-2016, 10:22 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Well, to be fair.  The NFL did try a league in Europe, remember that?  And while most European players can't hang with bonafide NFL talent, I feel like the joke is fair.  I sensed no derogatory undertones toward European folk, as a people.  Why did you?

Go back and re-read what I wrote.

European folk are not the ones "doing what every other team in the NFL does."

Get it now?

[BengalsIronMan]

(04-01-2016, 12:06 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: Get ready Bengals fans now that the Margus Hunt show is a training camp away from being a total crash and burn the Bengals need a new project and this guy is right up the their alley...

1. Very little experience (4 years of football)
2. Insane highlight reel
3. Foreign
4. Off the charts athleticism (6 foot 4. 227 lbs, 80 inch wingspan, 39 inch vertical jump)
   

And last but not least he has played WR for the the almighty Schwäbisch Hall Unicorns in Germany. I think the only question is do we have to trade up to get him?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/01/pro-day-workout-creates-buzz-around-german-wr-prospect/


I actually found a youtube highlight reel a few days ago and sent to a friend from work and said I wouldn't mind him being our next project, like Simpson and Hunt and many others. He fits our bill. He's a freakish athlete if his play translates he'll be pretty good 

[BengalsIronMan]

Don't really know why my text was put in that quote